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Got would?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Bob Smith, Dec 27, 2019.

  1. Matt Stephens

    Matt Stephens Well-Known Member

    inthesuburbs and Liut like this.
  2. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Woke Up With Would
  3. Bronco77

    Bronco77 Well-Known Member

    Our old-fogey readership includes many people with lots of time on their hands who like to call or email whenever they spot an error or redundancy, and only then does management take such criticism seriously. I'm hoping someone calls us out on "different" and a few other pet peeves so I can say, "I told you so."
  4. baseballeditor123

    baseballeditor123 New Member

    These are all great. I hate "would go on to" and "were able to" with a fucking passion.

    My least favorite, though? "Ultimately." And I see it more and more in young journalists.

    The word ultimately doesn't do shit for a sentence. See? Take it out of that one. Never need it. Never adds anything.

    The Patriots ultimately won the game. NO. The Patriots won the game.
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  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Ultimately, it seems, we would be talking about Pleonasm

    Which is the use of more words or parts of words than are necessary or sufficient for clear expression. Pleonasm may also be used for emphasis or because a certain phrase has become established in a certain form (from the wiki).

    In other words (many of them) . . .

    "Ultimately, he would go on to hit a walk-off grand slam home run in the bottom of the inning to win the game"
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2020
  6. ADanielPandR

    ADanielPandR Member

    "Losing effort" soured on me quickly. I've heard that on occasion from regional sports anchors, but it's mostly another SID phrase meant to put a positive spin on everything. From my experience, the people who use that term and/or teach their subordinates to are the same people who warn impartial credentialed reporters not to make their teams "look bad."
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  7. ondeadline

    ondeadline Active Member

    The other irritating part of hospital references is when there are many hospitals in the area yet the reporter says they taken to THE hospital.
  8. MeanGreenATO

    MeanGreenATO Active Member

    Lots of folks need to read a copy of "The Elements of Style" and tighten copy.
  9. Situation

    Situation Member

    Or LSU running back or star RB
  10. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Reminds me of an old writing teacher who said "that" can be eliminated from almost any sentence, usually by rewriting it with stronger adjectives.
  11. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    "Fall" definitely falls into your category. Would not be surprised if "fall" originated with an SID.
  12. ADanielPandR

    ADanielPandR Member

    Definitely. "Lose" and "loss" are four-letter words for some people, which is why they never fail to substitute "fall" for the former or turn the latter into an adjective while adding an extra word to remind everyone "the team tried their best, so they're basically still winners." Meanwhile, behind closed doors, there's a 50-50 chance the coach filled the locker room with actual four-letter words, and even hyperpartisan spectators probably would not fault him/her.
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
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