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From "Readers React" in the NYT today

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    "Free speech is a privilege."

    Uh, nope.
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    A right granted to us by our government, or is it an inalienable right, bestowed on us by a benevolent Creator?
  3. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    The comment is probably written by the same type of people who hold "Get government out of Medicare" signs.
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Many people, deep down, hate freedom and democracy. They like being told what to do, and they LOVE watching other people being forced to do things. They've been polling this since polls began, and nothing in the Bill of Rights ever gets majority support.
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Rights are not absolute.
  6. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    To say a right is a privilege shows a vast ignorance of what rights are.
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    For example, the right to free speech doesn't include the right to pitch tents and sleep in a (private) park/plaza.
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm quoting Mayor Bloomberg's statement yesterday.

    "No right is absolute . . ."

  9. rpmmutant

    rpmmutant Member

    Fortunately, the right to peaceably assemble is in the Bill of Rights. I believe that includes pitching tents in a public park to protest a sense of oppression.
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    There's the rub (in part) - Zuccotti Park is privately owned public space.
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    By that argument, it would be illegal to kick out a homeless person from a park if they are just sleeping or loitering.
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    So Bloomberg is correct. Freedom of speech is not absolute. The Supreme Court writes that same sentence into almost every First Amendment decision it renders. For example, there are hearsay restrictions in a Court of law. That's a restriction on free speech. You can't picket behind the president during the State of the Union address. That's a restriction on free speech. You can't price-fix. That's a restriction on free speech.

    But that is a loooooooooong way from calling it a "privilege."

    It is not a privilege.

    It is a right.
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