Freedom Is On The March

We are still in Germany, Japan and Korea. Are you saying those long struggles weren't worth it? Or are you saying the US no longer has the backbone to create success stories like that? And those successes did not take 700 years.

Speaking of where we still are - how are things in the Balkans? Your brave and honest broker Bill Clinton did a fine job on that one. Of course if he was a Republican - you'd be calling him a chickenhawk instead (because at your core you are a hypocrit).

 

Comparing Iraq to Germany and Japan is about as nonsensical as you can get.

Chris is getting pretty good with this truthiness thing

 

Whereas comparing Iraq to Vietnam or Ireland makes perfect sense.

JR - you pick and choose worse than F_B

 

Only if you're Henry Kissinger. Good thing he's not running the... Oh wait. Nevermind.

 

It's a helluva lot closer than your comparison.

The Vietnam one is at least in the ballpark. Yours isn't even in the same universe.

But keep beating those war drums, Chris. I'm sure it makes up for all the Fredo fuck-ups.

 

Let's see - the Korean War was a war that was given a UN blessing and in which the US did most of the heavy lifting.

It was also a war that saw the President who OK'd it have his approval ratings plummet in the polls.

It also turned out to be the right thing to do. Nothing could be more black and white than the difference between a free South Korea in contrast with the abject evil that is North Korea.

Oh and for those who still insist on the Vietnam comparison - I suggest you embrace the whole ball of wax including the millions who died in the killing fields of Cambodia and the flotillas of boatpeople who had to flee for their lives after the US left Vietnam.

 

How many dead American would have been enough in Vietnam, I wonder.
100,000?
200,000?
And the odds that another Cambodia will happen in Iraq get better every day as long as this government insists on blundering the army around in there as the only common enemy that all three sides in a civil war have.

 

Freedom is in retreat, if the British army guy gets his way. Fucking cut and runner.

Army chief declares war on Blair: 'We must quit Iraq soon'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410163&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5

 

What does he know?
He doesn't even have a syndicated
column or a seat at the Hoover Institute.

 

Not to mention that if you're a garbage collector...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/13/world/middleeast/13trash.html?hp&ex=1160798400&en=5c231505a3732a7c&ei=5094&partner=homepage

In a city where a bomb could be lurking beneath any heap of refuse, and where insurgents are willing to kill to prevent them from being discovered, an occupation that pays only a few dollars a day has become one of the deadliest. Most of the 500 municipal workers who have been killed here since 2005 have been trash collectors, said Naeem al-Kaabi, the city’s deputy mayor.

“When we are working, we are working nervously,” said Mr. Atia, 29, who started collecting trash during Saddam Hussein’s rule. “We are carrying our souls in our hands.”

Maybe Fredo's Band of Thugs should try cleaning up the garbage.

 

Great, a WWII reference, a backbone reference and a shot at Clinton all in one post.

If you had worked "freedom isn't free" and "we're fighting them there so we don't fight them here" in there somewhere, you would've pretty much covered the 2005 Iraq talking points.

Still a solid effort, though. A little outdated, but a nice try.

 

Wait a minute, Chris. Some history on the Korean War.

Truman's ratings dropped not because he sent US troops to Korea, but because he replaced Douglas MacArthur, a very popular general. MacArthur wanted to invade China, which would have risked a much wider war.