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Frank Deford, USA-Today and others sound off about soccer

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Piotr Rasputin, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    What a game, my friend. What a game.

    My buddy has a tape of that, and every time I visit him, we watch it. Smoltz the rookie vs. Morris the ol' grisled, championship vet.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    That's much better. And what's up with Hanks' neck? Longest neck, ever.
     
  3. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    And for most of the world, baseball is boring.

    Boring as batshit. Like watching paint dry. Or worse.

    Three and a half hour games. Guys who stand around and do nothing for 75% of the time.

    At-bats which are longer than a filibuster.

    But yet, you'd say, "They don't understand the game"
     
  4. doubledown68

    doubledown68 Active Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    Nope. If they don't like it, it's not going to take the maple syrup off my pancakes.
     
  5. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    This has to be the most original thread I've ever read.
     
  6. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    Oh, come on. This is about a great journalist saying incredibly . . . interesting . . . things about a certain sport.
     
  7. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    No, not the writing in the link by Frank. The thread itself I mean.
     
  8. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    Keep in mind that this isn't a piece that Mr. Deford wrote. Rather, he's being quoted by a reporter. It's notoriously hard to be funny in print, secondhand. Perhaps you misread the piece.

    "Soccer in America has had every chance. We reject soccer, that’s
    fair to say,” [this is emphatically true for the vast majority of the
    American population, as regards soccer as a spectactor sport.]

    says sports pundit Frank Deford, who is happy to lay
    out the reasons soccer causes him to hold his nose.
    “There’s not enough scoring, and ties make no sense,” Deford
    says. [Also true in the eyes of many millions of Americans.]
    But Deford isn’t finished. “There’s really a lack of proficiency
    in the game. God didn’t intend for us to use our feet and our
    heads. [For the humor-impaired, Deford is exaggerating for comic effect here.]
    Though what soccer players do with their feet and their
    heads is extraordinary, it is in the same way that spinning plates
    is extraordinary.” [And here again.]
    And don’t get him started on soccer’s offside rule, which prevents
    attacking players from standing any closer to the opposing goal
    than the other team’s last defender.
    “That’s simply un-American,” Deford says. [Again, he's being facetious, using a rhetorical
    exaggeration, while at the same time trying to illuminate some traits of the American character.]

    “We’re all about forward, forward, forward, in sports and in our society. From the
    19th century onward, we have not taken to soccer. It’s almost as
    if it’s not in our DNA to like it.” [This is demonstrably and historically true.]
    “Kids in this country may grow up playing soccer, but most seem to
    stop playing it fairly early in life because they lose interest,”
    Deford says. “In the end, that proves that it’s a game that’s not
    to the taste of our top athletes.” [As is this. Also demonstrably and
    historically true.]


    While I have no interest in the fight over soccer's success or failure in the US, I have a deep and abiding interest in the nuances of humor - and in trying to riddle out certain young readers' smug disrespect, and near-Herculean capacity for misunderstanding what they see on the page.
     
  9. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    Ah, I see. Since I asserted that Mr. Deford's statements were funny to me, and that he has seen better days, you feel compelled to defend him. Regardless of how many people share his opinion, I saw some of his statements as being yes, amusing.

    You choose to read it and say "I happen to like Deford's work! Therefore, he's being FUNNY!" I choose to read it without goggles that allow my respect for his work to cloud my opinion, and say, "Wow, just another basher with little of note to add to an old discussion. Other than, of course, repeating some jokes that were funny during the Nixon Administration." 

    To each his own. I do not question his opinion, I merely take issue with the expression of it. You found a way to bash me for pointing out the curmudgeonly way he expresses himself in what again is a very interesting article. Fact is, he might be trying to be funny, but the jokes are all old as hell and stopped being funny a long time ago.

    And argue it all you want, but to me his comments about soccer being "un-American!" with no support other than a simple dislike of the sport sound like something Hank Hill and the boys would say as the world passes them by.

    Perhaps that's the joke he's making? Perhaps his statement, his attitude are a brilliant satire of people who used to say such things and actually believe them?

    If so, then bravo, Mr. Deford, bravo.
     
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    "That boy's as sharp as a pound of wet leather." [/Hank Hill]
     
  11. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    One of these days, I'll get a just explanation on why 1-0 baseball games are labeled "gems" and considered pieces of greatness, while a 1-0 soccer match is just boring. I've yet for a seamhead to offer a just reason for this lack of consistency.
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Frank Deford sounds off about soccer

    Not every 1-0 game is a gem.

    That 1991 Game 7 of the World Series was a gem.
     
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