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Floyd Landis finally admits to PEDs...for most of his career

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 21, May 20, 2010.

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  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Suspicion is fair. It comes with being an athlete at this time. But to assume he is guilty because those around him were cheating? No, that's not appropriate. Not at all.
     
    outofplace, May 20, 2010
    #61
  2. Shoeless Joe

    Shoeless Joe Active Member

    Coke - and I don't mean cola - had more to do with Marco Pantani's death than EPO.
     
    Shoeless Joe, May 20, 2010
    #62
  3. Blitz

    Blitz Active Member

    Gotta give Landis some credit for coming clean, finally.
    Pete Rose should check out the approach and he'd be in the Hall by 2015.
     
    Blitz, May 20, 2010
    #63
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    How much blood can you draw at a time? And how often can you do it?

    They must have constantly been having blood drawn.

    Not saying I don't believe it, just amazed at the lengths these guys go to.

    And as much as I want Lance to be clean, I have to agree that it would be nearly impossible for him to dominate for so long against other world class athletes who were almost all cheating.
     
    YankeeFan, May 20, 2010
    #64
  5. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    I have a hard time believing that Armstrong's actions for charity were entirely, well, charitable. Guy like that doesn't do anything without considering its effect on his image, and I have no doubt that was his primary motivator.

    Of course, that doesn't make the millions he's raised any less valuable. As long as the checks clear, I don't particularly care why he does it. But to act as though he's some kind of saint does appear to be pushing it.

    But as was said earlier on, they could extract all my blood, take it into outer space and infuse it with alien gamma rays. I still wouldn't be able to ride a bicycle at speed through the Alps.
     
    deskslave, May 21, 2010
    #65
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Armstrong tweeted his attorney is getting ready to release some e-mails. I assume from Landis, likely borderline blackmailish in nature.
     
    Inky_Wretch, May 21, 2010
    #66
  7. Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!

    Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! Well-Known Member

    No. None.
    Yeah's he's coming clean - kind of - by telling everyone what we've known for years. And in doing so, he's trying to drag others down with him. Without proof.
    Hell yeah I think Armstrong is dirty and doped. But can I or anyone else, especially Landis, prove it?
    No? Then STFU Floyd Landis.
     
    Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, May 21, 2010
    #67
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    http://www.livestrong.com/teamradioshack/news_statement-from-counsel-team-radioshack-regarding-landis-allegations/

    http://www.livestrong.com/teamradioshack/news_series-emails-referenced-statement-regarding-doping-allegations/
     
    Inky_Wretch, May 21, 2010
    #68
  9. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    They all use PEDs.

    No one cares.
     
    TheSportsPredictor, May 21, 2010
    #69
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Those e-mails don't necessarily make Landis look bad, although his sponsor/doctor comes off as an idiot. It sounds like Armstrong responded with threats (by phone) and trying some smear tactics, and Landis' feelings got hurt. He sounds more defensive to me (he keeps bringing up Armstrong calling him an alcoholic and mentally unstable) than he does like he is issuing threats. It's also obvious that this whole thing happened because Landis wanted into the Tour of California, they wouldn't let him in, and Landis and his sponsor tried everything they could to get them to let him in, including subtly threatening to expose Armstrong. As much as that does or doesn't call Landis' credibility into question, the bigger question is why is Armstrong responding repeatedly if there is no truth to it? One, "You know that isn't true, Floyd. If you slander me, you'll hear from my attorney" suffices. Why are they indulging the dance, and why is Armstrong personally calling that Dr./Sponsor back several times and making threats and threatening to smear Landis? They'd have been better off keeping that stuff private. Those kinds of tactics take you only so far and often backfire in a PR war.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 21, 2010
    #70
  11. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    -If that were the case, this thread wouldn't have too many posts, would it?

    -If you really believe that, you're insane. And if you're here to whiz all over this thread, there's a urinal somewhere else you can use.
     
    Sam Mills 51, May 21, 2010
    #71
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, it's closer to true than not.
     
    JC, May 21, 2010
    #72
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