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Florida State loses scholarships, Bowden might lose wins

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Four years' probation, scholarship losses and possible vacation of wins in 10 sports, including football, baseball and men's basketball:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3958292

    Obviously, this affects the all-time record for coaching victories:

     
  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    If they weren't banned from TV or postseason play, they weren't "hammered." Those are the only penalties that really get anybody's attention.
     
  3. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    Maybe you're right, but reducing Bowden's win total has got to sting.
     
  4. Wonderlic

    Wonderlic Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    [​IMG]

    "Thirty-one of Bobby's 'victories' were at piddly little I-AA Samford anyway," Joe Paterno scoffs. :D
     
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  5. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    While we're on the subject, the story I posed uses "vacate" and "forfeit" interchangeably — they're not the same thing.

    Forfeits count as losses (and victories for the opponent). Vacated wins are treated as if the game was never played.

    The NCAA began making that distinction a few years ago, starting with the Oklahoma/Rhett Bomar summer job case, I believe.
     
  6. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    I think Villanova vacted it second place finish during the Howard Porter days.
     
  7. chilidog75

    chilidog75 Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    And it looks as if FSU will only lose 6 or 7 football schollies total over a 3 year span. And just one in men's basketball.
    Again, don't think 'hammered' is the right word here.

    In regards to the vacate/forfeit wording, does that mean that the losses don't count either? So instead of going 7-6 in 2007, FSU was 0-0?
     
  8. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Re: Florida State hammered by NCAA

    Does Jimbo Fisher even want to be the coach in waiting now?
     
  9. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    OK, I changed the thread title.

    And chill, no, they don't 'lose' the losses — nor do the teams they beat — the victories just don't count. It's like they went 0-6, I guess.
     
  10. Oz

    Oz Active Member

    As a JoePa fanboy, I'm happy to hear this news. Vacate those wins!
     
  11. HandsomeHarley

    HandsomeHarley Well-Known Member

    When Southern Cal gets investigated and loses scholarships and wins because of Reggie Bush, then I will take these things seriously.

    It's a sham when the USCs and Notre Dames can get away with close to murder because they're the media darlings.
     
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    And FSU isn't?
     
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