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FIBA Americas Championship (Olympic Basketball Qualifier)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Armchair_QB, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Without the ref-fucking, it'd be over 50 by now. ;) ;)

    As usual, the refs screw the US out of about 15 points of its margin in the final 5 minutes, Brazil heats up and hits about 5 threes in a row.

    Larry Brown take note: That's a big problem when you have a 67-62 lead. When you have a 110-65 lead, not so much.
     
  2. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Armchair is right about who has qualified.

    Here is FIBA's listing of the 12 spots available in Beijing:

    Gold & Silver medalists from this event
    Gold & Silver medalists from the European championships starting next week
    Host team: China
    2006 World Champion: Spain
    2007 African Champion: Angola (beat Cameroon on Saturday)
    2007 Asian Champion: Iran
    2007 Oceanic Champion: Australia
    Three spots from next year's qualifying tournament for those who don't make it this summer. (Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, South Korea and New Zealand are the teams already in.)
     
  3. spnited

    spnited Active Member


    They won the fucking game by 37 points. The average margin of victory thus far is about 50. And still you're whining about a ref-fuck.

    Un-fucking-believable.

    What's gonna happen when they win by only 20? You gonna tell us how badly they suck?
     
  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Everybody whines about ref-fuckings when you lose a close game. It's automatic, therefore nobody ever takes it seriously.

    The only time pissing and moaning about the refs really carries any weight is when you win by a big score. When the WINNING team says, "we got fucked by the refs," people say, "damn, if they're pissed even if they won, the refs must have truly sucked."

    International basketball refs ALWAYS fuck the U.S. in every single game. Every game. It's been a fact for 40-50 years now. They fucking sit at home and watch the films of Munich 1972 and dream of the day they can be part of taking down Goliath, too.

    The U.S. simply has to take this as a given, and resolve never to be in a position where it can make any difference. Failing to do so, means they can only blame themselves when it happens. Fucking Larry Brown (and his fellow fossilized sludge-ballers) based his whole philosophy on placing his team precisely in that position, every goddamn game.

    As far as what happens if and when they win a game by only 20 or so, let's see. So far it doesn't look real likely.
     
  5. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Tim Duncan in Greece comes to mind, but to say that always happens? Every single game? Really?
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    US 18 of 24 FTs...Brazil 21-of-29

    Total fouls: US 22, Brazil 19


    Damn, the refs fucked the US again
     
  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, pretty much.

    Some of it is worldwide anti-Americanism (which of course has gotten a lot worse in the last decade), a lot of it was racism when primarily-black U.S. teams were playing lily-white Euro/Warsaw Pact teams in the 1960s-80s, a lot of it is the "basketball purist" refs buying into the media depictions of the US players as lazy selfish fundamentally-deficient egotistical ballhogs and attempting to conduct a morality play of their own (punishing the "ghetto-ball" U.S. players and rewarding the "fundamentally sound" Euro players we hear so much about), and a lot of it is simply wanting to be on the court whenever something historic happens -- such as the U.S. losing an international basketball game. It's no longer that historic any more, but it still happens all the time.
     
  8. IU90

    IU90 Member

    ALWAYS in "every game" for 40-50 years there's never been a single international ref who was capable of officiating a game involving the U.S. objectively and professionally? So every single one of em's just been part of a vast plot to fuck over the Americans?

    Spare me. Your absurdly overgeneralized know-it-all rantings have grown tiresome, starman. There's a staggering gap between what you actually know and what you think you know.
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Drift in oblivious bliss. :D :D

    In every single international basketball game, from Junior Men on up, the U.S. has about a 25-point deficit to overcome before the ball is even thrown up for the opening tip. The teams need to accept this as fact, and play accordingly.

    About the MOST infuriating thing about Larry Brown's non-performance as coach in Athens in 2004 was watching the ole ratface shrew stand on the sideline and piss and moan about the officiating, when it was his own head-up-ass stallball coaching which had put the team in the position where it could make any difference.
     
  10. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Panama and the Virgin Islands finished last in their pools in the first round and have been eliminated. The remaining teams will play one game against each of the four teams they did not meet in the first round and the top four will advance to the semifinals.

    Final Pool standings look like this:

    Group A
    Argentina 4-0
    Uruguay 3-1
    Puerto Rico 1-3
    Mexico 1-3
    Panama 1-3

    Group B
    USA 4-0
    Brazil 3-1
    Canada 2-2
    Venzuela 1-3
    USVI 0-4
     
  11. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Fuck! The US is beating Mexico by only 20 early in the second half.
    The refs a fucking the US as always.
    We should be kicking these mother fuckers asses by 70!
    Why do we always suck in these tournaments?
    [/guesswho]
     
  12. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    He's overstating it, as starman is infamous for doing ... but his point is valid.

    If somebody is within reaching distance of the U.S., the calls do become lopsided.

    Where he's missing it is that 87% of the time, the U.S. is still dominant enough that it doesn't really matter to the point where it's even worth noticing.

    And again, I take umbrage at anyone having to apologize for wanting the Americans to win, and win with dominance. Part of this country's problem is that sometimes we LOSE our passion' we just "mail it in." We NEED to be intense about shit sometimes.
     
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