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Feds raid Jason Grimsley's distributor

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by The Big Ragu, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    That's because there is a misconception about steroids.

    Steroids are anti-inflammatory, nothing more, nothing less. They do not build muscle in themselves. What they do is cut substantially recovery time, whether it's between long, hard lifts or spots in the rotation. That is how guys can build bulk, with lots of lifting with little of the recovery involved. Or, it's easy to imagine, how a hurler can stave off dead arm.
     
  2. Cousin Jeffrey

    Cousin Jeffrey Active Member

    Dude, I know they're not magic beans. That's why it was so comical when Sosa said he wasn't taking steroids, he was just lifting a lot.

    Grienke, they said, hated baseball, DID have a dead arm and looked like he never lifted a weight in his life. You might as well say Bud Selig does juice.
     
  3. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Dude, you're way off the mark here. Anti-inflammatories? Please. Maybe you're mixing up steroids with anabolic steroids? But please go read up on the topic.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Those who can get access to Buster Olney's blog...

    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster

    Scroll down to yesterday's entry. He argues that the testing policy isn't working. It's interesting reading, even though he quotes baseball people anonymously, it's telling. The perception is that the bodies got bigger in the 90s, particularly the hitters. Late 90s, pitchers started in on the fun, particularly the middle relievers (guess guys who used to come in throwing 85, were now throwing 93). This one exec he talked to felt that in 2005, when they first started with the suspensions without any more mulligans, the bodies got suddenly and dramtically smaller. But this spring, a lot of the talk is that the bodies are getting big all over again. They attribute it to HGH. The players aren't dumb. There's no test, so they know they can use without getting caught. He argues, among other things, that the cheaters will always be ahead of the cops, but MLB is not setting enough speed bumps. For example, if they took blood now and stored the samples, they could be telling the players that the minute they have a reliable HGH test, they are going to go back and test samples, and anyone caught retroactively will be dealt with.

    That is a paraphrase, but pretty close to stolen outright from what Buster wrote. He sums up with:

    "This is what we do know, because our eyes are telling us, again: The bodies are getting bigger once more, at a time when baseball's testing program makes the U.S.-Mexico border look impenetrable by comparison. Any idiot can beat the system."

    No one can say people aren't at least noticing anymore and commenting.
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I am still convinced at end of day that we are going to find that a lot of players were walking around with legal prescriptions for drugs that were prescribed for "recovery purposes". What seems not in dispute is wheter some of these drugs are legal or not. What is in dispute is whether the prescriptions were warranted and legal.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That's obvious. This latest raid is targeting a bunch of MDs and pharmacologists. But just because some yahoo doctor prescribes it doesn't mean it was warranted or medically necessary. Obviously anabolic steroids and HGH are not medically necessary for most people, particularly perfectly healthy, young baseball players.

    Still, I think for every guy who is going to the trouble of getting a sympathetic MD to sign off, there are probably 20 who are smart enough to not want the paper trail that can lead back to them..
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Yeah but it was not obvious 3 years ago when I first put that theory out there. Many here on board shot the idea down.

    There is a lot of wiggle room in reasons for why these drugs are prescribed.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It won't give athletes any wiggle room. If you are on a prescription medicine that is on a banned list, you still have to go to them and get clearance. I'd love to see the mlb player who walks in with a doctor's note asking for permission to use anabolic steroids for medical reasons. It's why these guys are using surreptitiously, whether they get a prescription or not. 99.9 percent would get laughed at trying to argue that it's medically necessary.

    They've given players permission, though, for legitimate reasons. The guy who comes to mind is Adam LaRoche, who I believe MLB gave permission to take banned drugs for Attention Deficit Disorder (which obviously was affecting his play on the field).
     
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