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Fast and Furious: The Growing ATF Scandal

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Holder makes Alberto Gonzales look good in comparison.
     
  2. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    So much for blaming Bush...

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/holder-retracts-claim-bush-team-knew-about-fast-and-furious/article/2500157
     
  3. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    Not sure where you get that, Bagger. It's one Republican senator's claim Holder erred in blaming the former AG. Just means Mukasey may not have known. Doesn't mean shit else.

    You know, it helps to read the whole fucking article before coming here and shaking your dick at the rest of us.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Doc you really have no place lecturing anyone here at SJ.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege#Clinton_administration
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    How does one claim executive privilege while also claiming he's never seen the documents and has no idea what's in them?
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I think this whole thing is game playing. Holder offered to allow the committee to review the documents in question - figuring that they would/will leak at some point.
    And if you are investigating a "cover-up," why seek docs from two months AFTER the shooting in question? Why not seek docs that show the suspected bad acts you suspect of being covered up?
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    It's an election year. Most people aren't stupid enough to consider this anything more than political theater at the taxpayers' expense. It's also the exact kind of thing -- although not as good an example as last summer's debt-ceiling debacle -- that the vast majority of voters despise about Congress in general. The GOP, by the way, will again take the worst of it in terms of public opinion.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Certainly possible that it's a well conceived plan by Obama political team to make the Republicans look bad and deflect attention from bad economy.

    Downside is that it draws more attention to an issue that most were not aware of or cared about. Stonewalling tends to get everyone's attention.
     
  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Actually, I was thinking Issa is being exposed as a clown and he's dragging House Republicans down with him.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/eric-holder-contempt-vote-likely-cements-darrell-issas-legacy/2012/06/21/gJQAlTVwrV_blog.html
     
  11. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Even if Issa is right on Fast and Furious, his investigating of every single thing Obama does, and the general political atmosphere, will guarantee that this stays an issue only among the "TelePrompter! 57 States!" crowd.
     
  12. J-School Blue

    J-School Blue Member

    This. I absolutely think an investigation into this should happen, but Issa has no credibility, and is proceeding with it in the most histrionic and flailing manner possible. The atmosphere is so poisoned everything, regardless of legitimacy, is turned up to 11 and rendered completely stupid.
     
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