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Fast and Furious: The Growing ATF Scandal

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I'm just surprised a couple of civil servants with no government connections were able orchestrate such a long-running and broad campaign with zero help from the feds and did so with NO ONE in the Obama administration knowing a thing about it or giving them the approval to carry it out.

    If the AG's office truly knew nothing about this Holder should lose his job today. He's clearly not competent enough to hold office.
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Even better then, Just blame it on Bush.
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Better still, it was called "Operation Wide Receiver."
  4. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised they are witholding documents then. Just turn over all the Bush stuff and blame him. What are they hiding?

    And how did this rogue operation continue to go on three years after Obama took office? What was Holder doing?
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Didn't say it wasn't a stupid program with foreseeable bad consequences. But in the context of incredibly stupid and dangerous acts of the American government in the past, this isn't really worth getting excised about. This is grandstanding by republicans.

    Darrell Issa wasn't this concerned about the false allegation of Iraqi WMDs and the War in Iraq. This is purely political.
  6. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Yes, we really shouldn't be excited or upset about the US government being complicit in the cold-blooded murder of ATF agents. Can't let that get in the way of The Messiah's re-coronation or anything...

    Good Fucking Lord.
  7. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    Yay! We've reached the portion of the thread where AQ_Teabagger calls Obama "The Messiah." YAY!
  8. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Like. Clockwork.

    So about those ATF agents Holder helped get killed...
  9. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Can you do some research on how many agents were killed, because you can drop the "s"? I'm also guessing drug cartels buy more firearms in a week via the Internet than all the arms not interdicted through the program.
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Most astonishing is that none of these giant Mexican drug cartels had any guns before this. Crazy!
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    They couldn't pass the background check at Walmart.

    The LDS Church, through KSL, is cited as a hub for online gun sales. Close to 3,000 firearms for sale through the site right now.

  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    If that's the case then why not just put all the documents out there and let the public decide if it's "purely political"

    By withholding documents it seems like there is something to hide.
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