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Experience vs. college degree

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by SEeditor, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. Frank_Ridgeway

    Frank_Ridgeway Well-Known Member

    My point wasn't to side with either of you, just to say that what difference does it make what you read last? When we send a package, we have no idea what the person reads first, second or third as everyone is different.

    In 1986 I took my first shot at the NYT. Now everything I've ever read says keep the resume to one page. The SE at the time sent me back a letter saying my resume was skimpy, could I flesh it out, go into detail about what I did at each stop? So I did. But if I sent a three-page resume to someone else, into the garbage it goes, so I didn't revise my entire resume philosophy on the basis of one person saying to do more. Likewise, in 1984 the first major-metro SE to fly me in for an interview looked at my critique -- I think it was five or six pages -- and told me he wrote a 70-pager to get his job. Well, I don't doubt that he wrote 70 very compelling pages (because after all, they did hire him and he did turn out to be a very good SE), but if I sent a 70-page critique to some SEs, they likely would think I was a mental patient.
     
  2. Frank, didn't mean that you were siding with me. I just should have said that the college degree is the lowest priority for me, not necessarily the last thing I read. I value job history, samples of work, etc., first
     
  3. And just for the record, every person I've hired has been a college graduate.
     
  4. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    For the record, I have a few on the staff here sans degree.
     
  5. That's funny. Next time, I'll take your argument, and you take mine.
     
  6. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    I know. I was chortling to myself over that very thought.
     
  7. Born to Run

    Born to Run Member

    This is probably off topic, but I'm thankful for the time I spent in college because I built up a ton of experience AND grew up quite a bit.

    Without that time, I don't think I was mature enough or talented enough to have much of a career.
    Where I work, though, I can't imagine anyone being hired without a degree. And often, that's probably to our detriment.
     
  8. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    Many top writers in our profession (and even editors), are without a degree.
     
  9. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    rush of deadline?
     
  10. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    ;)
     
  11. pallister

    pallister Guest

    Why?
     
  12. Born to Run

    Born to Run Member

    Pallister:
    It's just a feeling. I don't really have anything to go on. Too many reporters to take a survey.
    That said, I probably overstated it. What I should have added to my post is that the truly talented among us can probably have great success in any time without a degree, here or anywhere.
    Average Joes like me would probably have a harder time getting in the door.
     
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