ESPN's top WR list

First this:

Then this:

So which is it? Is he one of the true greats, getting it done no matter who is around him? Or was he a bust in Oakland because he had crap QBs?

Yes, I'm a Raider fan. Does that mean Moss is a leader?

Among Raider wideouts, Tim Brown was still excellent in 1995, with a mob throwing to him. Vince Evans and Billy Joe freaking Hobert took over after Hostetler - no hall of famer himself - went down. He put up some good numbers the year (1998) Donald Hollas started most Raider games at QB, with Napoleon Kaufman at RB. And he never quit on his team.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowTi00.htm

In Kansas City, Joe Montana showed his greatness by putting up a solid, if injury-plagued, two years throwing to Willie Davis and JJ Birden.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MontJo01.htm

Moss went to Oakland after running himself out of Minnesoooooota and acted like a little bitchboy.

Hell, if you watched this year's Super Bowl, he gave little effort to actually catching the ball on the two deep balls to end the game. Oh, he might have had little chance to catch them, but with defenders' hands on him, he could have at least tried to jump and draw a call or a catch.

What he did in college means less than nothiong to judging his professional exploits. He is a quitter. It is an absolute insult to make him a top-five wideout alltime, no matter how pretty the numbers were.

 

why are you making culpepper out to look like a hack? he damn near threw for 5k yards one season. the guy threw a helluva deep ball ... the only ball it seems moss is willing to run to catch.

 

Sorry Trey. Swann wasn't even the best receiver on his own team from the 1974 draft. I'd put John Stallworth higher on the list than Swann, but neither one belongs in the top 10.

 

Irvin is a joke at number four, as a lot of people are saying. He was a Hall of Fame receiver and a solid receiver at that, but not the fourth best ever. Rice is a no-brainer at number one and Moss isn't a bad pick in the second slot. Owens at nine is an interesting pick. Imagine how much better Owens could be if he didn't drop so many passes.

 

Where is Keyshawn?

 

He's #1 in his own mind.

 

He's at about No. 32 whining and bitching about not getting on the damn list.

 

Only two HOF receivers can call themselves teammates, and neither of them is on this list.

They also have a combined eight Super Bowl rings.

This list is so weighted to the past 10 years, I can't even glance at it.

Fred Biletnikoff?
Lance Alworth?
Raymond Berry?
Paul Warfield?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_td_career.htm

 

Likewise. Swann's catches were prettier, but I always thought Stallworth was their go-to guy.

And if Alworth gets dinged for "misgivings about defensive talent during the early days of the AFL," what about current receivers in a 32-team league? Are they trying to tell us there are 64 active CBs better than Willie Brown, Fred Williamson, or Butch Byrd were in their era? And Alworth wasn't even a full-time starter until the AFL's fourth season, so why should the "early days" argument apply to him? Oh, that's right -- there are two 1960's NFL players on that panel. No bias there.

You can bet Ken Houston had Bambi high on his list.

 

Don Hutson?
Please.
That's like ranking Cy Young in your top 5 pitchers.

 

this "list" was put together by a 10-year-old. no offense to mike, a fine, hard-working young man, but c'mon. to judge by "numbers" with all the rule changes is wrong on soooo many levels. sheesh. : : :

moss may be the MOST TALENTED wideout ever. but no dog should be on any top list. and he's the captain of the dawg pound.

 

Has anybody else scrolled down to notice that Keyshawn was part of the 7-man panel that made these selections? Well, at least we know he got one vote.