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ESPN the Mag does Tony Washington story, Jenna Laine speaks

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Piotr Rasputin, Aug 28, 2010.

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  1. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    This is why I don't write serious stories.
     
    mustangj17, Sep 1, 2010
    #25
  2. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Boom,

    Why do you continue beating up on Jenna on this when she already has addressed and recognized all the criticisms you keep regurgitating?
     
    Ace, Sep 1, 2010
    #26
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    She and others have stated that her story did not hurt Washington's draft position. I am merely responding with further detail to support my contention.

    Mr Washington went from being a fairly high rated OT to a non drafted player without any explanation.
     
    Boom_70, Sep 1, 2010
    #27
  4. nmmetsfan

    nmmetsfan Active Member

    Am I naive to think if he were that good, he would have been drafted (or at least invited to a camp)?

    Maurice Clarett was drafted. The Bengals have shown that they will take anybody. Jerruh doesn't shy away from troubled talent. There's more evidence out there to support that talent trumps character in the NFL.
     
    nmmetsfan, Sep 1, 2010
    #28
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    People make mistakes, Boom.

    Some write stories that they regret. Some make less-than-judicious Tweets. Some beat up their girlfriends.

    Can't we all just get along?
     
    Ace, Sep 1, 2010
    #29
  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I have not been hostile. Just stated my case supported by facts.
     
    Boom_70, Sep 1, 2010
    #30
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    You're no gingerbread, big guy.
     
    Ace, Sep 1, 2010
    #31
  8. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    You forgot "Some fuck their sisters".
     
    YGBFKM, Sep 1, 2010
    #32
  9. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Boom,

    I did a story a couple of months ago -- after the NHL draft -- on why a couple of very highly rated prospects (according to the league's Central Scouting) fell significantly in the first round.

    Four different team draft gurus said the same thing: "You cannot use those rankings as anything more than a guideline."

    The reason? Central Scouting is only allowed to grade on physical ability. They do not conduct personal interviews. They are not allowed to factor off-ice/field issues. And, in Washington's case, those would be major. From what I understand, the NFL model is similar. So, while Washington may physically be worthy of consideration, there are other enormous factors to consider.

    In 1996, the Patriots relinquished their draft rights to Christian Peter. Maybe other teams had the same worries. Who knows? But there is no way Jenna Laine's story was a surprise to any team or the NFL's security. They all knew that if they drafted Washington, this was coming.
     
    Elliotte Friedman, Sep 1, 2010
    #33
  10. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Interesting insight on Central Scouting. Thanks.
     
    amraeder, Sep 1, 2010
    #34
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Good insight Elliot - thank you. Here is list of players that rated lower than Washington that were drafted. Note that Washington rating was 5.6

    [+]
    Scott, Chris OT 6'4" 319 Tennessee Pick 20, Round 5 (151) Steelers 5.5 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
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    Calloway, Kyle OT 6'6" 323 Iowa Pick 9, Round 7 (216) Bills 5.4 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Walton, J.D. C 6'3" 300 Baylor Pick 16, Round 3 (80) Broncos 5.3 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Young, Sam OT 6'8" 316 Notre Dame Pick 10, Round 6 (179) Cowboys 4.7 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Fox, Jason OT 6'7" 303 Miami Pick 30, Round 4 (128) Lions 4.6 --
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Smith, Shelley OG 6'3" 300 Colorado State Pick 18, Round 6 (187) Texans 4.4 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Wang, Ed OT 6'5" 314 Virginia Tech Pick 9, Round 5 (140) Bills 3.7 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Olsen, Eric C 6'4" 306 Notre Dame Pick 14, Round 6 (183) Broncos 2.9 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Petrus, Mitch OG 6'3" 310 Arkansas Pick 16, Round 5 (147) Giants 2.9 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Lauvao, Shawn OT 6'2" 315 Arizona State Pick 28, Round 3 (92) Browns 2.4 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    Tennant, Matt C 6'5" 300 Boston College Pick 27, Round 5 (158) Saints 2.4 -- Video
    [+]
    Cook, Erik C 6'6" 318 New Mexico Pick 22, Round 7 (229) Redskins 2.0 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    Degeare, Chris OT 6'4" 325 Wake Forest Pick 30, Round 5 (161) Vikings 2.0 -- Video
    [+]
    Harewood, Ramon OT 6'7" 360 Morehouse Pick 25, Round 6 (194) Ravens 2.0 --
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Hawley, Joe OG 6'3" 297 UNLV Pick 19, Round 4 (117) Falcons 2.0 -- Video
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Newhouse, Marshall OT 6'4" 319 TCU Pick 38, Round 5 (169) Packers 2.0 --
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Hudson, Otis OG 6'5" 312 Eastern Illinois Pick 21, Round 5 (152) Bengals -- --
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    McClendon, Jacques OG 6'2" 305 Tennessee Pick 31, Round 4 (129) Colts -- --
    Pick Analysis: null
    [+]
    Webb, J'Marcus OT 6'8" 328 West Texas AM Pick 11, Round 7 (218) Bears -- --
     
    Boom_70, Sep 1, 2010
    #35
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Boom, are you upset that the article hurt his draft status or are you upset because you think it hurt his draft status and that the author and others haven't acknowledged it?
     
    YankeeFan, Sep 1, 2010
    #36
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