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ESPN’s features and analysis moving ESPN+ paywall

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    I don't get any newspapers. I was able to get the print edition of my old paper online for the past 5 years. But something changed on Jan. 1, 2020 (bad year, man, bad fucking year). None of my usernames/passwords worked.

    I only go to the ESPN website to check the day's schedule of games, times, TV, standings, etc. Occasionally, I'll click to get a look at a box score or a game cast. I never click for stories (any good stuff turns up on SJ). I'm guessing that what I look for will be behind the wall. I'll take a deeper look at Yahoo and see if they have what I want in an easy-to-find format. I don't want to have to go to each individual sport to find the information.
  2. nickp

    nickp Member

    For example if baseball insider Jeff Passan has a feature it would be on ESPN+ but if he were to break a big signing it would remain outside the paywall
  3. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    So, dumb question, I already pay for ESPN+ as part of the Disney+/Hulu package.

    Do I need to pay another subscription fee to read ESPN+?

    Because if I don't, then this seems like a way to push people into more of those E+/D+/H packages, at $12.99 a month, which seems like a bigger win all the way around.

    If I do have to pay extra, then there's no chance I'll pay for it.
  4. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, never thought of this. Interested if anybody knows. My girls are Disney-crazed. We have Hulu and Disney+.
  5. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    If you already have H/D+ adding ESPN+ puts like an additional penny to your monthly bill.

    I suspect all this is to just juice those bundle numbers but I could be wrong.
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You may be right. It could be part and parcel of what I was saying about the ESPN website maybe serving purposes beyond being a standalone.

    Disney made a huge pivot to streaming, and it has been working hard to try to catch and overtake Netflix.

    Disney has a lot of assets under its umbrella, aside from the streaming service, which it can try to leverage in that competition, namely Hulu and ESPN+. If bundling those things drives subscriptions and increases revenue, it would make a lot of sense. It's what Amazon tries to do to suck people in.
  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    My sense is it's not great for the readership of those features and analysis pieces. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see there being an essential market for many of them. Wright Thompson, perhaps. I personally like Seth Wickersham. Barnwell perhaps? I have E+ anyway for other stuff, but I'm not sure how many readers will follow over.
  8. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I like Lowe and Barnwall. But the Ringer has a platoon of writers on the NBA and some good NFL writers. I don't think Lowe and Barnwall are worth paying for when I can get good content for free.
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't read anyone at this point on the NBA. And I like Lowe. But that's one serious epistemologically boring sport at the moment.
  10. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    So is the NFL.
    Not really a moment, either.
    It's sucked for a good decade-plus.
  11. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    When Passan joined ESPN, he said he wanted his work to remain in front of a paywall. I’d be curious to hear how he feels
  12. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Barnwell seems to be a likable enough guy. But that doesn't cut it when analyzing from a logistical and learning point of view, and the fact that he never has quotes or does anything other than look at the numbers, statistics and write from those diminishes his work a lot for my liking. Pass.
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