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Ernest Hemingway

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Sep 5, 2013.

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  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Just don't have the mind to enjoy his work or get it on the level
    that the experts say I should.
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Where'd you get that picture of Charlie Pierce? Que va!
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It's fun to press people when they say that like to read Hemingway. When asked
    for more detail of why they really don't have an answer. Which tells me that
    they really don't read Hemingway and were just saying so to sound sophisticated
    and erudite.
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    I didn't start reading him till I was 32 or 33.

    For Whom the Bell Tolls is my favorite book. The story is gripping and no one writes better dialogue.

    Tarantino is the Hemingway of movie dialogue.
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    At least people read him.

    Folks kept telling me what a great writer and reporter Helen Thomas was, but none of them could cite a single thing she had ever written.
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I think he's even better at setting a scene than he is at dialogue.
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Man, you are relentless. This made me laugh.

    As for Hemingway, he overrated Dimaggio a bit. Should have gone with Hank Greenberg.
  9. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I bet Dick has read every work.
    Dick, come tell us about Hemingway.
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I rarely delve into "levels" of literature unless they hit me over the head.

    Sometimes you just have to read a book for its story.

    It's kind of funny, really. Growing up I'd hear Hemingway or Steinbeck or other literary heavyweights and be scared off not because I wouldn't have understood the works but because there was this strange importance put upon them and that made me uncomfortable, which then made me gravitate away from them, idiotically so.

    Then I started reading them in my early 30s and wondered why the fuck I waited so late.

    They are simple, effective -- beautiful -- storytellers.

    And yeah, as LTL alludes to, the DiMaggio thing. You have this whole fishing tale that stands on its own merit, and yet the tale is woven throughout with references to America's greatest ballplayer (subjective, of course, but you get my drift). Then again, any writer who can masterfully weave baseball into his or her story is good in my book.
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He had DiMaggio in mind before he wrote the rest of the book. Built a whole narrative around the idea and mythology of DiMaggio.

    The whole novel falls apart with anyone else.

    Besides, Greenberg was a Jew. Who's going to relate to him?
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The narrative had a narrative.
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