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Elway sowing his wild oats

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BYH, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Should this thread still be going?

    I say "neigh."
     
  2. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Just the fact that Bradshaw called his own offence throughout his career and still won four Super Bowls makes him a better QB than Elway. Do you have any idea what a huge difference that makes?? Let me give you a hint - there were no offensive coordinators telling Bradshaw to give the ball to Franco Harris on this play or to throw it to Lynn Swann on that play. He made those calls on his own because, on the field, he knew what would work best for the team. Imagine that, allowing a quarterback to actually decide for himself on the field what his offence should be doing. The mind boggles.

    Oh yeah, there's also the fact that Bradshaw played during a time when there was far less protection for QBs than there is today. That means he had to do even more thinking on his feet than people thought him capable of. When you consider that he outshone the likes of Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton in that era, head-to-head, and was never beaten in the big game.....the first guy to win four rings....yeah, he was a better QB than John Elway. The end.
     
  3. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I think the Steel Curtain had something to do with Bradshaw "outshining" Staubach and Tarkenton.
     
  4. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Well, Otto Graham won seven championships in the pre-Super Bowl era, and Bart Starr won three of his five in the pre-Super Bowl era, so they've both got more than four "rings."
     
  5. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    I didn't say it didn't. But the Steel Curtain was too much for those two guys and the Purple People Eaters weren't too much for Bradshaw.

    And why did Tarkenton lose three Super Bowls to teams not called Pittsburgh when Bradshaw didn't lose a Super Bowl to anybody?

    Yeah, point taken, if you ignore the fact that the NFL considers Otto Graham to have won three championships and not seven. It doesn't acknowledge AAFC records. Plus, in only two of those seven championship runs did Cleveland have to play more than one playoff game. Still, okay.

    But, Graham was 7-2 in league championship games and Starr was 5-1. Bradshaw, again, was never beaten in a league championship game. Like they say about Rocky Marciano, it ain't necessarily the 49 wins that made him great; it was the 0 in the loss column.
     
  6. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Graham played against who he played against. It's not his fault.

    Bradshaw won one of his titles against the Vikings, after all ...
     
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