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Eli Manning retires

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Regan MacNeil, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    For sure. Who else is eligible always impacts things.

    This is just a personal bias, but I have always been way more partial to the idea of Hall of Fames being more, not less, exclusive. I think the actual building in Canton is meh compared to other Hall of Fames, but one thing I do like about the PFHOF is that it is probably the hardest hall of fame to get into out of the major sports (someone will probably correct me on this, though).

    Somebody posted something this morning on the baseball HOF thread about how Joe DiMaggio wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer (neither was Yogi Berra, and lots of other all-time greats who became eligible in the 50s, 60s and 70s), and how idiotic that is. Maybe. But I think it also speaks to how much less exclusive they have made Cooperstown over time (the steroid player mess, notwithstanding). It used to be more of a big deal getting in, let alone getting in by near unanimous consent.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Here's another thing. The committee, senior pro football reporters one and all, is well aware which candidates are coming down the eligibility pike in future years. I think you're right that if Rivers and Eli are first eligible the same year their candidacies would hurt each other. They would REALLY hurt each other if the committee knew Brady would be eligible the next year.
    PS: Ragu, in some ways the football Hall is LESS exclusive, since it has to admit a minimum of five new members a year (maximum is seven). But that's for a sport where there are more than twice as many players on a team. So it seems more exclusive.
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    The most dangerous word in the language.
     
  4. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    C'mon, he was cutting the family meat.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Seriously, the guy can't support his brother?
     
  7. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  8. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Simms' lack of durability is a big knock. In a 15-year career, he started at least 12 games just 8 times. There's five years where he played just 20 total games.
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I put Eli in the Hall of Very Good, "has a ring" division. That said, ten minutes ago I saw a headline that read "Is Eli Manning a first round Hall of Famer?".
     
  10. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    As a first-year ballot guy, absolutely. He's already in a pool with Kuechly and Witten might retire. But Eli's going to get in -- even if it's down the line. Kurt Warner went in on the third try, that could be easily be Eli territory.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Era-adjusted, I'd say these guys were fairly comparable:

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  12. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    I cannot stress this enough. Eli's interception total and interception rate are terrible for his era. He put up yards and tds because everybody after 1990 did. What everybody else in the last 20 years didn't do was throw picks at the rate Eli did.
     
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