EDIT!!! IMUS CANNED FROM TV AND RADIO!!!!

Fenian_Bastard · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

What do you mean by that?

JackS · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Simon_Cowbell said:

JackS said:

Simon_Cowbell said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

How many more chances should he get, BTW?
http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/4400.html
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Zero.

That said, I also want to defend Steve Capus a bit on this thread. Unlike most empty corporate suits, Capus really does have a soul. He may have sold it for awhile in deference to Imus, but better late than never in terms of recovering it. I applaud him for actually SEEKING OUT the opinions of NBC employees over the past week. And having sat in many meetings with Steve in the past, I completely believe him when he says those opinions played no small part in Imus' ouster from MSNBC.

As someone I worked with at NBC said to me this morning about Steve Capus..."he's the only nice one."
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jack -
Since you seem to know the terrain, was Capus behind the idiot move of hiring Michael Savage for MSNBC a while back, or was that Kaplan?
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It was actually Erik Sorenson who hired Savage. When I knew Capus, he was exec producer of Nightly News. He didn't take over the entire division until 2005. (I left in 2002.)
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Thanks.
Capus came across pretty well, I thought, in what had to be a horrible situation for him.
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He gets ZERO latitude in making the announcement after the dollars were already gone.

None.

Disgustingly disingenuous.

Capus might be fb.
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Yeah, OK, I know Capus and plenty of the people at NBC News, but I'll let you be the one to tell me about his character and how it all went down, boss.

The suspension was announced before the advertisers pulled out, FYI. There's no reason not to be deliberate after announcing the suspension. It bought time to make a final decision.

The only beef I would have is in making the suspension effective beginning next week. It should have been immediate.
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The drop of the show was announced AFTER the advertisers dumped it.

Period.
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The drop of the show was also announced after blowback from NBC employees, so it's not so "black and white" (and green) as you want to make it.

Fenian_Bastard · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Jack --
How dare you know what you're talking about?

cranberry · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Fenian_Bastard said:

Are you anti-this fella?

(Obscure biblical references optional at extra cost)
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Who knew Jesus landed at Iwo Jima?

Simon_Cowbell · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

cranberry said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

Are you anti-this fella?

(Obscure biblical references optional at extra cost)
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Who knew Jesus landed at Iwo Jima?
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Iwo Jesus?

Simon_Cowbell · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

JackS said:

Simon_Cowbell said:

JackS said:

Simon_Cowbell said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

How many more chances should he get, BTW?
http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/4400.html
Click to expand...

Zero.

That said, I also want to defend Steve Capus a bit on this thread. Unlike most empty corporate suits, Capus really does have a soul. He may have sold it for awhile in deference to Imus, but better late than never in terms of recovering it. I applaud him for actually SEEKING OUT the opinions of NBC employees over the past week. And having sat in many meetings with Steve in the past, I completely believe him when he says those opinions played no small part in Imus' ouster from MSNBC.

As someone I worked with at NBC said to me this morning about Steve Capus..."he's the only nice one."
Click to expand...

jack -
Since you seem to know the terrain, was Capus behind the idiot move of hiring Michael Savage for MSNBC a while back, or was that Kaplan?
Click to expand...

It was actually Erik Sorenson who hired Savage. When I knew Capus, he was exec producer of Nightly News. He didn't take over the entire division until 2005. (I left in 2002.)
Click to expand...

Thanks.
Capus came across pretty well, I thought, in what had to be a horrible situation for him.
Click to expand...

He gets ZERO latitude in making the announcement after the dollars were already gone.

None.

Disgustingly disingenuous.

Capus might be fb.
Click to expand...

Yeah, OK, I know Capus and plenty of the people at NBC News, but I'll let you be the one to tell me about his character and how it all went down, boss.

The suspension was announced before the advertisers pulled out, FYI. There's no reason not to be deliberate after announcing the suspension. It bought time to make a final decision.

The only beef I would have is in making the suspension effective beginning next week. It should have been immediate.
Click to expand...

The drop of the show was announced AFTER the advertisers dumped it.

Period.
Click to expand...

The drop of the show was also announced after blowback from NBC employees, so it's not so "black and white" (and green) as you want to make it.
Click to expand...

Bull... shit.

Fenian_Bastard · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

OK, stop it before I need a new monitor screen.

sportschick · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Maybe the next time you create a new user name, you could figure out how to argue without throwing out insults. Just a thought.

Fenian_Bastard · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Hey, what about the rap musicians, Bernard?

sportschick · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

That is gross!

Simon_Cowbell · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

sportschick said:

Maybe the next time you create a new user name, you could figure out how to argue without throwing out insults. Just a thought.
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you want me to grease you... but i'm not taking your bait

JackS · Apr 12, 2007

Re: MSNBC Cancels Imus From TV

Simon_Cowbell said:

JackS said:

Simon_Cowbell said:

JackS said:

Simon_Cowbell said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

JackS said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

How many more chances should he get, BTW?
http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/4400.html
Click to expand...

Zero.

That said, I also want to defend Steve Capus a bit on this thread. Unlike most empty corporate suits, Capus really does have a soul. He may have sold it for awhile in deference to Imus, but better late than never in terms of recovering it. I applaud him for actually SEEKING OUT the opinions of NBC employees over the past week. And having sat in many meetings with Steve in the past, I completely believe him when he says those opinions played no small part in Imus' ouster from MSNBC.

As someone I worked with at NBC said to me this morning about Steve Capus..."he's the only nice one."
Click to expand...

jack -
Since you seem to know the terrain, was Capus behind the idiot move of hiring Michael Savage for MSNBC a while back, or was that Kaplan?
Click to expand...

It was actually Erik Sorenson who hired Savage. When I knew Capus, he was exec producer of Nightly News. He didn't take over the entire division until 2005. (I left in 2002.)
Click to expand...

Thanks.
Capus came across pretty well, I thought, in what had to be a horrible situation for him.
Click to expand...

He gets ZERO latitude in making the announcement after the dollars were already gone.

None.

Disgustingly disingenuous.

Capus might be fb.
Click to expand...

Yeah, OK, I know Capus and plenty of the people at NBC News, but I'll let you be the one to tell me about his character and how it all went down, boss.

The suspension was announced before the advertisers pulled out, FYI. There's no reason not to be deliberate after announcing the suspension. It bought time to make a final decision.

The only beef I would have is in making the suspension effective beginning next week. It should have been immediate.
Click to expand...

The drop of the show was announced AFTER the advertisers dumped it.

Period.
Click to expand...

The drop of the show was also announced after blowback from NBC employees, so it's not so "black and white" (and green) as you want to make it.
Click to expand...

Bull... shit.
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Yes, so I'm sure if the advertisers had hung in there, Steve Capus would have been happy to keep Don Imus around and have just about everyone in his division loathe him (ignoring the opinions he solicited), making his everyday life miserable.

You know it all, Simon. Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

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