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Don't call me "amigo," buddy

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by shotglass, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    oop, I expected the contrarian view to come in before the first page was done.
     
  2. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    They beat and robbed someone. Put the guys in jail and let them out only after they speak fluent English and obtain their GED.

    Otherwise, it's like giving them a cookie and making them promise they won't do it again or they will REALLY get in trouble next time.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    So did I.

    And Magnum, I took it to mean there was a deal on the table and this was part of it. Don't ask me why. But if they are going to be back on the street shortly, I like the idea of their parole coming with those attachments.
     
  4. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    Nothing in the story about a deal, just that they pleaded guilty. Had there been a negotiated plea, the judge just decides whether to accept the terms or not. If not, the defendants can withdraw the plea.

    In this case the judge determined the sentence. He could have easily given them jail time. No wonder the defense attorney was all a-giggle over the sentence. His client is off scot-free.

    And pardon me for not chiming in sooner. I had a dentist appointment.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I think it's fairly safe to assume they got some kind of deal for pleading guilty. At least that is how I read it.
     
  6. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    I'm sure your assumptions are correct, as opposed to the facts I just laid out for you.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    So, the facts you laid out are incorrect? Well, thanks for that then. (Hint: Try re-reading your statement. And work on those writing skills).

    You were basing your argument on an assumption, that there was no deal in place that limited what the judge could do. Perhaps while you are working on those writing skills, you should look up the definition of a fact, too.
     
  8. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    ::)
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Weak, but at least you didn't mangle your meaning that time.
     
  10. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    I'm sorry. I didn't have the patience last night to respond to what may have been the most idiotic post I've ever read.

    My statement was sarcasm and, to be honest, we both know it. But you're so insecure that you insist on having an argument so you can be right at something, no matter how trivial. Lost the 'battle' so you try to 'win the war' by insulting my writing and my meaning when even your kid could have figured it out. You lead a sad existence.

    Here are the facts. Let's say you're arrested for beating your kid. You have a couple of options: Go to trial or plead guilty. If this is your first offense you can talk to the prosecutor about a first-time offender program. In this, you plead guilty and get your record wiped clean once you complete some programs.

    Let's say you've been caught red-handed and you have a history. You can approach the prosecutor and ask for a deal. Maybe you can turn on someone or the evidence isn't as strong as the prosecution would like. They may offer you a lesser charge a number of years in exchange for your plea. This is a negotiated plea. If the judge thinks the prosecutor is being too lenient with the offer, he can reject the plea and you can go to trial.

    Let's say you don't want to go to trial but the prosecution is intent on putting you in jail for a long time. So you plead straight-up. In exchange for your plea, the prosecution may agree not to make a recommendation to the judge, nor will they contest your plea for leniency, but there is no deal in place.

    Hope that is clear enough for you.
     
  11. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Fuck those thugs; throw 'em in jail.

    Now can we go back to talking about la Reconquista?
     
  12. Magnum

    Magnum Member

    Indeed. Death to the marranos!!
     
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