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Does the NBA stink?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by clutchcargo, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. I wasn't disagreeing with you, per se. It's true that to become a star in today's NBA all you need to do is do one or two things well and do them with flair. But I was disagreeing with your point about Pete's superior "basketball skills." You probably should have "offensive skills."
     
  2. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    Maravich wasn't a total slouch on defense. He averaged nearly a steal a game in his career, and had three seasons of 100 or more steals each. Not NBA All-Defense caliber by any means, but at least he tried, most of the time.
     
  3. Those are terrible numbers for a guard, especially one who played as many minutes as Pete. He's currently 100th all-time with 1.4 steals per game. I've seen him play (not live), and his defense was pretty bad.
     
  4. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    There's a (well, several) reason(s) why we keep getting run in the international game. Those guys can all shoot, and they all share the ball.

    It's a simplistic analysis, and Starman makes some strong statistical points, but the mid-range shot is so bad in today's NBA. When a guy can hit it consistently, or uses the glass well consistently (like Duncan), he's either a Euro, an anomaly or a specialist (Kapono), IMO.
     
  5. Pringle

    Pringle Active Member

    No, I'm older than 25. But sometimes I wonder if some of the people on here are about 80 with all this veiled talk about how the Negroes are ruining basketball with all their runnin' and jumpin' and showin' off.
     
  6. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    Pringle:
    Your charges of racism on this thread are silly and typical kneejerk. The NBA game I loved watching in the 1970s and 1980s was played predominantly by black players, just as it is today.

    Face it: today's product is inferior, and race hasn't a thing to do with it. Selfishness, laziness, ego, individuality, etc.---all the factors that hurt today's game are color blind.
     
  7. Chuck~Taylor

    Chuck~Taylor Active Member

    No no my friend, I disagree. Basketball's popularity is increasing all around the world. I don't think basketball is as bad as what all of you make it out to be. In fact, I can almost guarantee you that in 20 years, the NBA will be right up there with football. If you wanna' talk about a game that's in the shitter, let's talk about baseball.
     
  8. Please, I'm begging you all. Stop.
    The game in the 1970's and 1980's you're all celebrating actually begins with Magic-Bird and ends with the rise of the Pistons and the Riley Knicks.
    The game today, by an large, is vastly superior to any played except that played by the Celtics and Lakers in the early 1980's, a time in which the rest of the league, especially the Eastern Conference, was pretty lousy.
     
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Even though I watch the Celtics, I don't think the NBA stinks. IMO, the nadir of play was the mid and late '90s, and things are looking up a bit now. I emphasize a bit there.
    The larger international talent pool has improved play, and will improve strictly American play in time. The number of teams I will happily watch play regular season ball has certainly gone up from 7-8 years ago. Too bad all of them are in the past-my-bedtime Western Conference, but you can't have everything.
     
  10. steveu

    steveu Well-Known Member

    Bingo. Some players, both black and white, have no work ethic in today's NBA. (For further reference, listen to Allen Iverson's "we talkin' bout practice" rant. It's a classic.) They also couldn't care less about their teammates and about how they project themselves off the court.

    The basketbrawl at The Palace woke David Stern up that his league had a major image problem. It still isn't perfect, but from this we got the dress code and this season's major change about officials not tolerating any feedback from players. I love seeing the T rung up at a high rate. (Just don't get all cocky like the baseball umpires and show how "superior" you are.)

    This sport is more bearable to watch than it was a few years ago, but it's still a shadow of the NBA from the 1980s and early 1990s.
     
  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Selfishness (World B. Free, Dominique Wilkins), laziness (Joe Barry Carroll), ego (Wilt Chamberlain and about 10,000 others) and individuality (Earl Monroe, Pete Maravich) have been a part of the game for decades. And there isn't a single sport that doesn't have those same traits.

    Selective memory can truly distort a person's viewpoint.
     
  12. WSKY

    WSKY Member

    The NBA is awful. I watched the all-star game for 12 seconds and then went to GREASE. I hate GREASE so that tells you what I thought of The LeBron and Kobe Show.
     
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