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DMN Managing Editor suggests Google best for searching DMN site

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by SockPuppet, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. SockPuppet

    SockPuppet Active Member

    Dallas Morning News managing editor George Rodrigue, on the paper's opinion blog, responded to a reader complaining about how poorly dallasnews.com's search engine functions. Rodrigue said Google was the best way to search. On the blog, DMN staffers comment by agreeing how the site's search function sucks.
    Here's the link (click on the link in the link to see Rodrigue's original post):

    Wanna find out about something written in the DMN (or posted on its blog) in the last week? Last month? Last year? Well, heck, dear reader, just leave the DMN web site and go to Google.

    This is just another example of how the newspaper business is doomed.
  2. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Makes you wonder just how long publishers are going to wait before they actually do something with this grand ol' Yahoo! consortium they've been so happily patting themselves on the back over (see today's MediaNews memo -- if the full text gets posted here -- for an example.)

    And yeah, most newspaper's search functions suck mightily (the New York Times is an exception.) Of course, since newspaper librarians are a thing of the past ... who the hell can get their content organized enough to be searched these days anyway?
  3. SixToe

    SixToe Active Member

    "Our site sucks. Go to Google and help them make money!"
  4. Cadet

    Cadet Guest

    My understanding is many newspapers (including DMN) are in bed with Yahoo and must use them as the search engine for the site. I think this was a spinoff of papers partnering with Yahoo for ads and help wanted classifieds and such. Anyone have insight on the Yahoo thing?

    And Buckdub, not having a newsroom librarian doesn't have a thing to do with searching a newspaper's website. Unless that person was a web developer, there's nothing they could organize to improve a website search function. Sites, at least the back-end CMS, are pretty well organized already. It's just the strength of the query.
  5. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    True. I'm just speaking of archiving in general -- newspapers are piss-poor at it, and a large part of the reason is because no one is left to do it. Searching the Web site is only part of that particular problem.
  6. Cadet

    Cadet Guest

    I agree. I don't think my paper even has much of a morgue to speak of, and I know we lost our librarian in a round of buyouts.
  7. Sxysprtswrtr

    Sxysprtswrtr Active Member

    That's the same issue with my shop. Yahoo! partnership began with the ads and crossed over into the search engine.
    I'll see if I can get more info.
  8. Colton

    Colton Active Member

    Here at my shop, we've been filing our own stuff in our own sports morgue for the past 10 years. It's proven to be an invaluable resource and time saver on many occasions.
  9. Cadet

    Cadet Guest

    A former shop of mine didn't keep a paper morgue for space reasons (small building). "All our archives are online!" they said.

    Until the day they switched website providers. Poof. Stories before that date were gone. All of them.
  10. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Microfilm, baby.
  11. SportsDude

    SportsDude Active Member

    Can anyone explain what happened to Yahoo's search engine? A few years ago I used it constantly and it seemed on par with Google, now it's almost unusable.
  12. Editude

    Editude Active Member

    Say what you will about other ownership models, but I would nominate the late-era DMN as one of the least successful new-economy newspapers of the past 20 years. It's a descent to, I don't know, irrelevance.
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