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Did Dennis Kucinich commit treason?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Uncle.Ruckus, Aug 31, 2011.

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  1. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    I'm reading this story and finding it hard to say no. Either way, he's done.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/docs_bush_official_kucinich_offered_to_help_qaddafi_regime_on_ending_us_involvement_in_libya.php?ref=fpblg
     
    Uncle.Ruckus, Aug 31, 2011
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  2. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    It's a pretty big jump from "Kucinich met with Libyan officials" to "Kucinich committed treason," no? The guy is very anti-war and was looking for documents that Qaddafi was going to step down before the bombings, which it sounds like he didn't get. As far as him being done, the more worrisome thing to him is probably the redrawing of his district again.
     
    sgreenwell, Aug 31, 2011
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  3. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Also, the original article is 75 percent about the Bush administration guy, with the bottom portion being about Kucinich wanting documents about the war efforts:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/08/2011831151258728747.html
     
    sgreenwell, Aug 31, 2011
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  4. Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)

    Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) Active Member

    [​IMG]

    Dennis has a very pretty wife.

    A very pretty wife.
     
    Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Aug 31, 2011
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  5. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    It's one of those "Where's Waldo" things, right? Oh, there's Dennis.
     
    HanSenSE, Aug 31, 2011
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Not saying Kucinich committed treason. I have no idea. It sounds like he was trying to work with the Libyans to take a shot at the U.S., though, from the way that is written. It's not like he had evidence of something. He specifically went in asking them to dig up evidence to prove a preconceived notion -- which was anti-American policy. At best that is slimy and dishonest.

    As for the "Bush administration guy," honestly I have no dog in this fight in a Republican/Democrat way. I can't stand either of the parties. But from that article, he was well out of government when he was meeting with them, and it's well known that Qaddafi employed American PR firms and lobbyists to try to polish his image here. It sounds like the guy in that article was working as a private citizen, in a PR role for some terrible people. Not the most noble work, but it doesn't smack as badly as the elected official (Kucinich) trying to create an anti-American policy story where he had no evidence of one, by asking the bad guys to give him evidence.
     
    The Big Ragu, Aug 31, 2011
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  7. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    I hope someone didn't tear a labrum by reaching so far.
     
    Football_Bat, Aug 31, 2011
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  8. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    Kucinich is a POS. How anyone can defend him is beyond me. He will rot in hell.
     
    CarltonBanks, Aug 31, 2011
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  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's formally treason, but that seems awfully inappropriate.
     
    RickStain, Aug 31, 2011
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  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    See "October Surprise," 1980.


    http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_cr/h920205-october-clips.htm
     
    Starman, Aug 31, 2011
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  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Dude - THAT was Patriotism.
     
    DanOregon, Aug 31, 2011
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  12. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Treason is the only crime that is defined in the Consitution:

    Nothing in the original story amounts to levying war against the U.S., adhering to our enemies or giving them aid and comfort:

    If anything it reveals that Kucinich may have been part of an important diplomatic back channel to the Libyan government. Such back channels are a necessity and different members of the U.S. government hold them with every nation that we publicly denounce. If one were exposed, it's embarrassing, but nothing close to treason.
     
    franticscribe, Aug 31, 2011
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