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Dick Cheney recovering from heart transplant

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MileHigh, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    This might be the best post of all-time.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Which only makes it bigger news, regardless of the politics.
     
  3. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Whichever argument is more convenient, eh?
     
  4. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Privelage gets you a new heart at 71. A regular Joe likely would have been told TS.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but soon, with socialized medicine, we'll all be able to get new hearts, right? We'll all get the same level of care.

    Former top government officials will be just like the rest of us then.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    From the Chicago Tribune Reuters:

     
  7. indiansnetwork

    indiansnetwork Active Member

    This proves if you have money you are more valuable to the world. You think a bum on the street with his heart and health history would have a chance in hel! at getting a transplant. Heck, NO! He should have died like the bum would.
     
  8. DocTalk

    DocTalk Active Member

    Significant numbers of patients older than 70 qualify for transplants. Hearts and lungs are especially finicky. Not only do you need oo qualify medically, have the right blood type and also be in the same region as the donor, but you also have to be the same size. Kidneys can be fit into any abdomen, but heart and liver need sized to fit intothe recipient chest cavity.

    While connections may make a difference in medical care, I don't believe that this occurs in the transplant world. The scarcity of organs and the transparency of the waiting lists make for a fair distribution.
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Never thought about the size of the patient & donor being an issue. Makes sense though.
     
  10. indiansnetwork

    indiansnetwork Active Member

    How did he get one then? His heart is two sizes too small.
     
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Connections make a difference in getting on the waiting list. I have no doubt money and notoriety play a role in getting a transplant.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-24/health/liver.transplant.priority.lists_1_organ-transplant-liver-transplant-united-network?_s=PM:HEALTH

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31509368/ns/health-health_care/t/did-steve-jobs-wallet-help-cut-transplant-wait/#.T2_gBhB5mK0
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I would love to believe this is true. But if it is, that would represent a tightening of the system in the last 10 years, since a Yakuza boss and three of his underlings jumped the line to get new livers at UCLA Medical Center.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/30/local/me-ucla30

    The four surgeries were done between 2000 and 2004 at a time of pronounced organ scarcity. In each of those years, more than 100 patients died awaiting liver transplants in the Greater Los Angeles region.

    Not trying to say anything is wrong with the Cheney case, but I think it's naive to say this system can't be manipulated.

    One thing I did read yesterday is that older patients have a better chance of getting what in effect are B-list organs -- they wouldn't qualify to be given to another patient with a good chance of survival, but if they aren't being used anyway, they'll turn to the high-risk recipient group figuring it's worth a shot.
     
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