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Deford's confessions in SI

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by brettwatson, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    Frank Deford is a great guy and a great writer. Still.

    I rest my case.
     
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    It's always good to see him at Saratoga.
     
  3. SportsDude

    SportsDude Active Member

    My guess, the "confession" was getting his "Toughest Coach" story from a discarded newspaper he found during his trip to write about Bryant - he credited the original writer in the new SI story, then went on to discuss how he gave "acclaim" to this hereto unknown coach. Maybe that was "news," maybe it wasn't, because I don't go back quite that far. That's my guess, because the article was particularly vague in more ways than one. Still, I'll take bad Deford, mailed-in Deford, or sleep-induced Deford over 90-percent of the stuff out there.
     
  4. friend of the friendless

    friend of the friendless Active Member

    Sirs, Madames,

    I'm going back but I think that "discovery" of the Sullivan story was out there soon after publication.

    o-<
     
  5. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    That's been known about the Sullivan story since it was published in SI, and Deford's long acknowledged he saw it in the paper.
     
  6. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    How much enterprise that's ever appeared in SI truly originated with one of their own staffers?
     
  7. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    I'm sure there's some, but it's not like it's a discredit to a magazine piece if it first appeared in a newspaper or on TV or whatever, if the writer expands on it or simply writes it better.

    It's not like it's unique to SI; what's really original? Countless classic stories started when someone saw it elsewhere. Capote saw the In Cold Blood killings in the New York Times. It's not like the book loses points simply because the idea didn't start with Capote getting a tip from a police officer in Kansas about some killings.

    The tragedies of John Wideman's family were well-known, but Smith's piece on Jamila Wideman is still a classic. And on and on.

    I am pretty sure that Plimpton didn't see the curious case of Sidd Finch in any newspaper before his SI story.
     
  8. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    I would argue it would say something horrible about local journalism if national papers picked up major stories first on a consistent basis.
     
  9. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    To me, rather than counting against the magazine writer, it says more about the originating reporter and what he or she didn't do with a story that was good enough to be pursued and opened up by a national magazine or Web site. I know local newspapers reporters are awfully busy, though, and may not have access to forums bigger than their daily papers.

    But turning what we do into a comments-board game of "First!" achieves nothing.
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Worry about getting it right, not getting it first.

    Lessons we've been ignoring for a century or more.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. friend of the friendless

    friend of the friendless Active Member

    Mr Williams,

    I don't know that the fellah with the Scooba Dispatch could have got more than 20 inches for a Sullivan feature.

    o-<
     
  12. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    If Frank Deford had thrown in a Karate Kid reference, paralleled all his experience with a trip to Vegas, told us what type of latte he was drinking while doing all of it, and not used the word "I" so many times, why, he just might have been able to make something out of that article.
     
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