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Dan Wetzel on McCoy and Gilbert last night

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Sneed, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Thanks, DD. Wasn't aware of all that.
     
  2. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Nice. I still have a chip from Greektown Casino from a few years ago when I was up for a friend's wedding. Pretty sure the friend also worked with Wetzel somewhere along the line.
     
  3. funky_mountain

    funky_mountain Active Member

    wetzel, who is a good guy as well, also did a bunch of work for basketball times and his story on don haskins that ran in basketball times appeared in the 1999 edition of basw.
     
  4. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    Wetzel was great at the former SportsLine covering college basketball and is a great guy, as well....Very caring about what he does, very professional, and a pleasure to work with.
     
  5. jfs1000

    jfs1000 Member

    What Wetzel does just takes time and patience. The problem with these big events is you get the bulldogs wanting to get a quote to put in their story. That's the business, but when the story is written before you talk to the subjects, are you really asking them what happened?

    I hate writing like that. Some people love the fact they can pump out a good gamer in 30 minutes, plug in quotes and send. I know some guys who wear it as a badge of honor.

    I just won't do that. I have done stories like this (not quite as good as Wetzel) and they kind of hit you over the head. Notice the time posted, it was 3:48 a.m. Well, that means he hung around the locker room to talk to people. Who does he talk to? Assistant coach? SID? McCoy's father? McCoy himself? Probably all of the above. The towel boy was there.

    To be honest, it was probably a throw away line by someone, and Wetzel made the connection that he threw to his dad a million times and then he couldn't throw 7 yards.

    Most people would take that quote and plug it into their story. Wetzel used that vignette and that was the story.

    His genius here was recognizing the fact this All-American couldn't do something he had done easily for about 15 years.

    Where did he start the reporting? He asked himself a simple question -- who was there witnessing what happened?

    As an editor told me when I started this business when we were tracking down high school games by calling Aunts and Uncles at 11 p.m....someone was there, and someone knows what happened.

    Once you find out who was there, seek them out, and the story writes itself.

    I bet the column was written off less than 10 minutes of audio tape.
     
  6. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    The always amazing William Langewiesche has a story on an Army sniper in the current Vanity Fair.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/02/sniper-201002

    I thought of this discussion when reading this graf, as far attribution (lack of), or setting the scene at an event the writer didn't witness.

    The whole story's worth a read.
     
  7. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link, STG. Gotta check that out.
     
  8. Mighty_Wingman

    Mighty_Wingman Active Member

    Before I read the story, I've got to mention: The header on vanityfair.com says "Febraury 2010." I'll admit I had a moment of schadenfreude.
     
  9. jaredk

    jaredk Member

    No attribution necessary here; anyone who has read the first 2000 words knows the source of this graf's information.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    It's easy to say you won't bang out a quickie story and plug in a quote -- until you have 40 minutes to run down, grab a quote and file before deadline. What you call the genius of this story isn't that he recognized something no one else figured out -- that, as you said, McCoy was unable to do this simple thing he'd done a million times -- it was that Wetzel had the time and to do that reporting and find the right people so he could set the scene. And he did a terrific job of that. But the vast majority of writers at that game never had the chance to get that story. They were merely blowing and going, trying to get something in by deadline.

    BTW, I think I'm wth jaredk here. It sure reads like the writer was there. Assuming he wasn't, a "said" would have helped immensely without interrupting the flow.
     
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