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Dan Uggla, worst All-Star performance ever?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    You don't much follow baseball?
     
    Moderator1, Jul 16, 2008
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  2. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    I wouldn't say he's the worst All-Star ever, but that was by far the worst All-Star performance I've ever seen.
     
    bigpern23, Jul 16, 2008
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  3. king cranium maximus IV

    king cranium maximus IV Active Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Cristian Guzman: 764 OPS

    Kelly Johnson in a completely meh season: 777 OPS

    So, to answer this question:

    Because he's lousy. As evidenced by the complete brain fart against Kazmir and the inability to put down a sac bunt. A slap-n-speed hitter who can't bunt. Awesome.

    Also that. If the ASG Counts(TM), then no players from lousy teams should be there without a clear reason (as in, are having an awesome season, which Guzman isn't).

    Guzman, 2005: 219/260/314. Dude's the rich man's Neifi Perez.

    With that being said, Uggla was definitively awful.
     
    king cranium maximus IV, Jul 16, 2008
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  4. Lieslntx

    Lieslntx Active Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    No I much don't, outside of the team I directly care about. But that's not my point. Baseball season is 160+ games. Sometimes it just feels like people expect some players to play perfect every time they get on the field. And I believe that to be impossible. There will be bad games and bad days for every one of them. That's just the way I see it.

    But I did say that I could be completely wrong.
     
    Lieslntx, Jul 16, 2008
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  5. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Hurt, bad eyes *** if he's your definition of lousy, there's a lot of lousy players on major league rosters. A lot of them.


    And "lies," you are not wrong at all. Clearly a bad day. I was just surprised you hadn't heard of him.
    It doesn't make you a bad person. At least you are not a Guzman hater.
     
    Moderator1, Jul 16, 2008
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  6. king cranium maximus IV

    king cranium maximus IV Active Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    That's correct.
     
    king cranium maximus IV, Jul 16, 2008
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  7. Prince of Persia

    Prince of Persia Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    He probably hasn't heard of Guzman either. ;D
     
    Prince of Persia, Jul 16, 2008
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  8. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Now let me get this straight. You're using Guzman's 2005 numbers to justify why he doesn't belong on the 2008 All Star Team? In what universe does that make sense?

    If you want to change the rules of the All Star Game to allow baseball to do away with its every team must have at least one player rule, good luck. It may not be a perfect rule, but it at least ensures that people who otherwise wouldn't give a shit have some rooting interest in watching the game.

    Power displays in the Home Run Derby might come around fairly often, but players capturing the imagination of the baseball public the way Josh Hamilton did doesn't happen often.
     
    forever_town, Jul 16, 2008
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  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Lidge got the loss. But he's had worse.

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    dooley_womack1, Jul 16, 2008
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  10. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Exactly.

    No question Guzman played a better game last night than Uggla. Also no question Uggla is the superior player.

    Guzman career: .268/.305/.382
    Perez career: .267/.297/.375

    Perez has about 800 more ABs than Guzman. Check back in two seasons and Guzman will be below Perez.
     
    TheSportsPredictor, Jul 16, 2008
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  11. king cranium maximus IV

    king cranium maximus IV Active Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    Not this one, because that was obviously not what I meant. I was using Guzman's horrible '05 numbers to show why he's not a "solid player."
     
    king cranium maximus IV, Jul 16, 2008
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  12. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Dan Uggla, worst All-Star ever?

    He's been hurt and he had eye surgery. No Nats fan in his right mind would argue for him based on 05 and 06. He was OK last year until he got hurt and has been very good this year.
    Yes, I would take Uggla in a trade for him straight up. I've never argued that Cristian is the be-all, end-all.
    But he's a long way from suck, way above bad. Teams could do a hell of a lot worse. The Nats have more problems than I can count.
    Guzman is not one of them.
     
    Moderator1, Jul 16, 2008
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