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Daisuke Matsuzaka alert (he threw five no-hit innings Monday)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by ondeadline, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    So what you're saying is that, with a little luck, Freel could be among the players who comprise the bottom tier of MLB starting center fielders. I don't think that's the Reds' endgame. I'm pretty certain the club views Freel as someone who's going to fill in until they get a real center fielder and that the player who'll get first crack at taking the job is Hamilton. I like Freel. He gets on base and he makes a nice super-sub type player but he'll get exposed playing center on regular basis.
  2. ondeadline

    ondeadline Well-Known Member

    On espn.com's drafts, the average spot Dice-K is being picked is 68.5, the eighth highest among pitchers.
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'd say more to the middle, if Freel could stay healthy. But let's just leave the threadjack as agreeing to disagree.
  4. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    My guess, on deadline, is that number is a little high.

    That probably factors in very early drafts, when he was still a completely unknown commodity. The more people have seen him pitch, the higher he has moved.

    You ain't going to get him at 68 today, is what I'm saying.
  5. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    I have a theory about the gyroball based on the little I've seen on TV of Matsuzaka.

    1.) It's a split-fingered fastball that dances a little more than the average splitter.

    2.) Batters are saying they've seen it in order to build up the legend. It doesn't actually exist. But players are mocking it and the attention bestowed upon Matsuzaka by going along with it. I mean, fuck, if no one's ever thrown a gyroball, how can you know what it is? This also serves to raise expectations for Matsuzaka, who will surely face tougher opposition in the AL than he has thus far in the Grapefruit League (Pirates twice, if I recall correctly), and hazes the new guy who got $50-odd million before he ever threw a big league pitch.

    If you ask me (and you didn't), he'll be the third-best pitcher on that team. And that's not only because I took Schilling and Beckett in the NIAFL draft today. :D
  6. leo1

    leo1 Active Member

    sounds about right on all counts, byh.
  7. OnTheRiver

    OnTheRiver Active Member

    You can't trust the ESPN drafts ... too many jagoffs getting in on the mock drafts from the public and doing stupid shit — like one guy I witnessed last week picking nothing but Brewers.
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    You're in a league with Bubbler, Gutter or PopeDirkBenedict? :D :D :D
  9. OnTheRiver

    OnTheRiver Active Member

    Those three do make up 75 percent of the Brewers fans in the world.
  10. leo1

    leo1 Active Member

    from verducci's story today:

  11. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    So, have you seen him throw it?
  12. Mayfly

    Mayfly Active Member

    Dice-K, IMO, is going to be a huge risk for the Red Sox. He is a hit or miss kind of pitcher. The Japanese game is completely different than that of the United States. The power hitters here are going to feast on his fastball that has at times looked flat in spring training. Once players get a hold of his wind-up and release points, the people on Yawkey Way are going to have fun chasing down those balls.
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