Colorado State fires/hires AD in same day

That's why you have SID's and Assistant A.D's.......to run the athletic department. As an AD, you shake a lot of babies, and kiss a lot of hands.

 

Lubick is probably sitting back in his recliner in the nursing home at laughing like hell at this.

I still remember the fun as hell CSU @ CU games at Mile High.......as well as several late-night CSU @ Air Force games.

 

The crowd last week was pretty depressing. Sure, it was Thanksgiving break, but still. As far as being FCS, that's pretty extreme, IMO. Won a bowl game just three seasons ago and have signed some big-time recruits, poached one from both Michigan and Northwestern (though we haven't seen it all be put together). CSU gets $3 million/year in standard conference TV revenue, most of which comes from the MWC's "national" TV network, TheMtn.

 

At this rate shouldn't the Mountain West and WAC just merge? About 15teams total with the UTs joining the WAC next year. Of course if the Big East - Western division picks off Boise and a few others, who knows.

 

What is the activity fee the students pay to subsidize the athletic program? If out to a vote do you think the majority of the studnets would approve paying that fee?

So who benefits. In my experience alumni will follow their college team wherever they play. Admittedly, by going to FSC the general sports fans would lose interest. But interest in CSU football is pretty limited. In Colorado the Broncos dominate and CU generates some interest but CSU not much. Playing in the Mountain West I don't see that changing because of the competition the NFL and Pac-12 offer.

As an FCS school Northern Colorado could be the rival. The basketball teams could still got to the NCAA tournament. Revenues would decline but I bet costs would decline a lot more.

 

People always bring up CU as stealing a lot of interest, but let's not act like they blow down the doors in Colorado with their support. Of course being in a major conference keeps them afloat but that's about it. It's a Broncos first, second and third area. Colleges in general in Colorado have a hard time gaining traction. It doesn't help that there has been little to cheer about for at least a decade in football and forever in basketball.

Now Lubick may have caught lightning in a bottle with his run but had all this realignment crap happened 10 years ago it would be CSU moving on to bigger and better things and not Utah and TCU. The AD failed miserably at cashing in on those good times and they have been paying for it since. The support was building pretty well then and it's hibernating somewhere. Considering all that this move is a risk that may pay off or it may send CSU beyond the dark ages. But success at a high level in D-I has happened at CSU before, and not that long ago. It's not crazy to think it could happen again.

 

CU didn't steal enough interest for that to fly as an excuse. No way.

The place is a Donkeys town, now and for the forseeable future, but they seemed to care about the football program (and volleyball thanks at least in part to its success). But basketball? Yikes ... saw a couple of games in person and it was cringeworthy (we'll let you figure out if I'm just an ACC snob or the quality is truly lacking). Tim Miles looks to be an excellent hire, but after the way Sonny Lubick was treated, would you stay there longer than it took to be successful for a season or two and get the looks from bigger, more prominent programs?

Don't think Lubick was lightning in a bottle. It wasn't one great player that happened to end up in Fort Collins instead of Boulder or Lincoln or Provo. There was a program. Momentum is gone, though.

 

I wonder if there are still some hurt feelings within school athletic departments/league offices about the WAC/Mountain West split? Some people might think that merging would be tantamount to admitting that the split was a failure.

(Of course, two of the "charter members" who helped lead the Mountain West/WAC split are no longer affiliated with either conference - Utah and BYU - so that might be a moot point.

 

Once Fresno State and Hawaii join the MWC that's a moot point. The only team left in the WAC from that split will be San Jose State.

 

Nevada, Fresno and Hawaii are all joining.
Lancey- CSU increased its student fees just about every year, and students weren't happy. No one would like a bigger tuition cost. But as far as the quality of the MWC goes vs. the Pac-12, especially during the past three years, it could easily be argued that the MWC is a stronger conference. This is the final year of the four-year "trial" period with the BCS, and though it doesn't look like a MWC school will play in one this year, the conference went 3-1 in only three years when competing in BCS action. The only loss was a MWC/MWC match up in the Fiesta Bowl (TCU losing to Boise).

Though, officially, the MWC went 2-1 during that time, since the BCS deemed Utah leaving the conference for the Pac-10 prior to this season counted as a Pac-12 victory, for some reason.

 

And an update: New AD fired Fairchild on Sunday.

 

Hawaii a football-only member. Rest of teams are going Big West.