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Charlie Weis = hypocrite?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Hate-Miser2, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    And what happens to the kid who signs with ND during the early period in, say, August and then in Dec. fat Charlie decides the NFL offer is just too good to pass up?
    Do you think the pompous asses at ND are going to let that kid out of his SIGNED commitment?
    If not, and the kid decides not to go to ND, he'd have to sit a year. So let's screw these kids some more to keep the fucking scumbag coaches happy.
     
  2. Pringle

    Pringle Active Member

    So you build that escape clause for the kids into the wording - it's already an issue in basketball, and I think it will be worked out eventually.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Yup Pringle... you are being a Notre Dame apologist.

    I'm with spnited and a few others here. Weiss basically wants to hold kids who are just 17 and 18 years old to a higher standard than himself and all the "adults" coaching college football.

    Maybe his current statement isn't exactly hypocritical. But it does show him to be the arrogant, self-serving asshole so many of us have come to know and dislike.
     
  4. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    there shouldn't be a ? at the end of this topic.

    the sooner weis lands back in the nfl, the better. he'll come off as much less hypocritical in the league where they play... for pay -- the kind that ends up on w-2's.
     
  5. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    In his second or third season at LSU, Nick Saban blasted a kid from Mississippi on signing day after the kid changed from an LSU commitment to a signee at another school. Saban talked about how some people don't know the meaning of the word commitment.

    This, of course, after leaving Michigan State with a few years remaining on his contract. This, of course, before leaving LSU with about six years remaining on his revised contract. This, of course, before ... well, you know.

    If he were to say that we all know longterm contracts really don't mean anything, then he should admit we all know oral commitments really don't mean anything either.

    Hush, Charlie. No good can come of your rant.
     
  6. Pringle

    Pringle Active Member

    You've got to move past who is saying it to what he's saying. He doesn't want to deal in uncertainty. Can't blame him.

    And whoever said he would be a better fit in the NFL is correct.
     
  7. Just_An_SID

    Just_An_SID Well-Known Member

    I bet the MAC, C-USA and other smaller schools would love to have an early signing period because football recruiting is based on calculated guesses more than any other college sport. Look at the Top 25 HS signees from a couple of years ago and I bet at least half have not lived up to the advance billing.

    An early signing period would force the big boys to make guesses based on junior year performances since the bulk of recruiting would have to be wrapped up in the summer. As it is now, major schools start with thousands of names and they continually trim the list down until early November when they start inviting kids to campus. An early signing period wouldn't afford them the opportunity to be this thorough.

    Smaller schools would like an early signing period because many times they will be in good on a kid until he has a breakout senior year and then, at the last minute, the big boys come calling and the smaller school is screwed.
     
  8. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    What's the most ridiculous aspect of this is how everything is slanted towards the coach/institution and against the kids.

    Signing a letter of intent commits the kid to the school for 4 years, but the institution is only committed to the kid for 1 year. The scholarship is renewed every year at the school's discretion (even if the kid is hurt) but the kid cannot leave without being released.

    When will this inequity ever be righted?
     
  9. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Someday it will. Sounds perhaps a wee bit like the MLB reserve clause? Somewhere down the road, people will look back in astonishment on how poorly college athletes are treated in comparison to the revenue they generate.
     
  10. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    A player can leave without being released, but without a release he/she is ineligible for financial aid from the athletic department. So in many instances it does force a player to stay at his/her current school.

    Most places will give a release, albeit begrudgingly, because they want other schools to release athletes who might be transferring to their school.

    The Pac-10 used to have a 2-year sit-out period for football and basketball transfers within the conference. That rule was quietly dropped several years ago, however, and several players have moved from one Pac-10 school to another.
     
  11. Pringle

    Pringle Active Member

    Notre Dame won't release kids to schools they play.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't care who is saying it. His rant here is bullshit.

    He doesn't want to deal with these things? Don't agree to be a college coach. He may be an asshole, but he's not dumb. He had to know this kind of thing happened at the college level.
     
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