Charlie Pierce Leaves Globe For Esquire

Elliotte Friedman · Sep 14, 2011

I understand, Michael. I admit to being caught up in Simmons' energy while reading it. As he was going over his rankings of the greatest players, it reminded me of arguing with my own buddies about that kind of thing.

Worked on me. Sometimes, accuracy is overrated

LanceyHoward · Sep 14, 2011

beardpuller said:

So, to some of you guys, actual writing -- how someone uses words, the craft of writing -- isn't really in the discussion, it's who has the more viable "brand" moving forward?

Boy, I'm glad I'm old.
I didn't grow up aspiring to be a media conglomerate, I grew up wanting to write.
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I think that branding yourself is probably a good idea for professional survival. When you and I were young it was a much different game.

I said this on another board but when I was in high school in 1974 Woody Paige spoke to my high school class and he said he went into journalism for among other reasons a secure job. No more.

Paige has done a marvelous job of branding himself. I don't know if he is the best columnist of the three at the Denver Post but if they cut back I don't think he will be the one to go.

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) · Sep 14, 2011

Elliotte Friedman said:

To me, the great thing about both Pierce's and Simmons' successes is that it proves you two very different people can be extremely successful in this business.

The one thing both men share is passion. You can tell both Pierce and Simmons love what they do. They work hard, come up with interesting ideas and really pour a lot of thought and energy into their work. People may not like Simmons' stuff or Pierce's politics, but you cannot deny how much they clearly care about their stuff.

I don't believe anyone can be successful without passion.

Other than that, they are totally different. Pierce is "old school," Simmons "new school." Pierce pours his heart into deep-rooted political/societal/personal issues, often with a slant, but always written beautifully. He thinks everything he does is of the utmost importance.

Simmons is all about the NBA, the Karate Kid and the Red Sox. But it's funny, very personal and it connects. His NBA book was excellent. A lot of fans see themselves in him. That kind of connection is critical with readers today.

The fact Pierce wouldn't be caught dead doing to what Simmons does is immaterial. It just shows that you can be different and still be successful. In a business with a lot of people trying to succeed and survive, that's a great message.
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Elliote - I love reading both Charlie Pierce and Simmons but the way you described Pierce I kept thinking about Sam Kinnison's passionate history teacher in back to school

Oh that may be the popular theory about the NBA but while you were trust funding at Holy Cross I was in the trenches traveling NBA city by NBA city by train and when it comes to politics George W Bush was a war criminal with daddy issues. Say it! Say it! Ahhhhhhh ahhhhhhhh.
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Ben_Hecht · Sep 15, 2011

LanceyHoward said:

beardpuller said:

So, to some of you guys, actual writing -- how someone uses words, the craft of writing -- isn't really in the discussion, it's who has the more viable "brand" moving forward?

Boy, I'm glad I'm old.
I didn't grow up aspiring to be a media conglomerate, I grew up wanting to write.
Click to expand...

I think that branding yourself is probably a good idea for professional survival. When you and I were young it was a much different game.

I said this on another board but when I was in high school in 1974 Woody Paige spoke to my high school class and he said he went into journalism for among other reasons a secure job. No more.

Paige has done a marvelous job of branding himself. I don't know if he is the best columnist of the three at the Denver Post but if they cut back I don't think he will be the one to go.
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He's embarassing himself now, regarding Tebow. He's betting a ton of money on the wrong horse.

YankeeFan · Sep 26, 2011

Pierce cranked it out today:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) · Sep 26, 2011

YankeeFan said:

Pierce cranked it out today:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/
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What can only be described as an orgasm of opinion.

IF Charlie Pierce keeps it up at this pace they will have to change the name of the blog to The Manifesto

YankeeFan · Sep 26, 2011

He posted more today than SkiptomyLou.

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