CFB Hall of Fame

They both have better college winning percentages than the third coach in the class and coached a hell of a lot longer at the college level too.

 

Both are being inducted for lifetime achievement - they are compilers, not hall of famers and the third coach on the list probably shouldn't be in, either.

Hanging around for a long time does not make one a hall of famer

 

All I need to know re: the CFHOF.

John f*ckin' Cooper is in. Orlando Pace.....after SIX years of eligibility...is not. That's just ignorance.

 

Not really. Criteria for coaches and players are different.

 

Both guys won more than 70 percent of their games. I'd say they're deserving. Hell, Fulmer's SEC winning percentage is one percentage point off of his overall percentage so it's not like he fattened up on chumps in conference play.

And if you want to talk HOFs with shaky induction criteria, look no further than Canton.

 

Being a Heisman finalist as a left tackle is the only criteria that Orlando Pace should have to meet.

 

I believe Pace fell under the same rule as Frazier. I can't speak for his previous years. Of course when guys who are now getting in after playing in the 70s, I'm not surprised on a wait for anyone.

 

Yeah but Fulmer was mostly pedestrian after the Tee Martin team - they didn't win an SEC title in his final ten years and they weren't really nationally very relevant for most of his final seven years and he only coached there for 17 seasons, so it is not like Bowden who was there for decades and had seven or eight bad years at the end of a brillaint career.

Fulmer was a very good coach and probably deserved better than to be fired but I don't see anything about his resume that screams "hall of famer"

But he is far more deserving than Slocum, who was not special and outside of a few years was the definition of how mediocrity, if scheduled correctly, can be masked.

 

Criteria for election:

Criteria for induction

The National Football Foundation outlines specific criteria that may be used for evaluating a possible candidate for induction into the Hall of Fame. NFF members and the coaches, athletic directors, and sports information officials representing member schools may submit nominations for consideration. Nominees with the highest votes received from one of the eight District Screening Committees (DSC) located closest to the nominee's college or university are included on that year's ballot, which is distributed to all NFF dues-paying members. The selection of Hall of Fame inductees, however, ultimately is determined by the Foundation's Honor Court.

Criteria for player nominees

1. FIRST AND FOREMOST, A PLAYER MUST HAVE RECEIVED MAJOR FIRST TEAM ALL-AMERICA RECOGNITION.
2. A player becomes eligible for consideration by the Foundation's Honors Court 10 years after his last year of intercollegiate football played.
3. While each nominee's football achievements are of prime consideration, his post-football record as a citizen is also weighed. He must have proven himself worthy as a citizen, carrying the ideals of football forward into his relations with his community and his fellow man with love of his country. Consideration may also be given for academic honors and whether or not the candidate earned a college degree.
4. In accordance with the 50-year rule,† players must have played their last year of intercollegiate football within the last 50 years. For example, to be eligible for the 2005 ballot, the player must have played his last year in 1955 or thereafter.
5. The nominee must have ended his professional athletic career prior to the time of the nomination.

†Those players that do not comply with the 50-year rule and coaches who have not won 60% of their games may still be eligible for consideration by the Division I-A and Divisional Honors Review Committees, which examine unique cases.


Criteria for coach nominees

1. While each nominee's football achievements are of prime consideration, his post-football record as a citizen is also weighed. He must have proven himself worthy as a citizen, carrying the ideals of football forward into his relations with his community and his fellow man with love of his country.
2. A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement or immediately following retirement provided he is at least 70 years of age. Active coaches become eligible at 75 years of age.
3. The nominee must have held a head coaching position at the collegiate level for at least ten years.
4. The nominee must hold at least a .600 career record over the course of 100 games or more.

 

And a list of the schools with the most inductees. The year is the last time they had one.

Code:

Notre Dame 	43 	2010
Michigan 	30 	2011
Southern California 	28 	2007
Ohio State 	27 	2010
Army 	24 	2004
Pittsburgh 	24 	2005
Penn State 	22 	2009
Oklahoma 	22 	2007
Minnesota 	21 	2009
Princeton 	21 	2002
Yale 	21 	2007
Tennessee 	20 	2006
Navy 	19 	2002
Alabama 	18 	2009
Pennsylvania 	18 	2001
Texas 	17 	2009
Harvard 	17 	2010
Stanford 	16 	2006
California 	15 	2004
Nebraska 	14 	2009

 

Understand that.

IMO, though, John Cooper belongs in the "Hall of good coaches who won a nice number of games, but sh*t the bed on the big stage." Orlando Pace was a monster, certainly as good as any OT that's gone in during his six years of eligibility.

Then again, there's the distinct possibility I'm just a bitter fanboi, who'll never get past his 'Coop angst.