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Cat Person by Kristen Roupenian (and what it says about relationships)

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Double Down, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    So this could make for an interesting discussion, as it's the rare fictional story to go viral.

    Story by an up-and-coming writer in The New Yorker this week, one that depicts an encounter between a 2o-something woman and a 30-something man.

    “Cat Person”

    A lot of women in my social media feed have said it's the most accurate thing they've read about what it's like for a woman today. Lot of complex questions raised about consent, and women "managing men's feelings" and why sometimes they have sex just to avoid being accused of rudeness when they'd rather get up and leave.

    There have been many, many TAKES as a result of this piece. MUCH BACKLASH and allegations of narcissism! And complaints that men are unfairly being lumped in with the main character. And backlash to the backlash!

    New Yorker says it's their most-read fiction piece of the year, and one of their most-read pieces published this year period.

    Any thoughts?

    It's a really good piece of fiction (in that it could easily be nonfiction because so much of it rings true).
  2. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    I couldn't get past the facial hair on both members of the couple in the lead art. Sorry, bash away.
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  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Before I read ... is it "fiction" like Taibbi's nonfiction was fiction?
  4. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I really liked it, and there's a good "interview with the author" linked at the end that mentions that it was based partly on her own bad experience after online dating. I'm male, so I can only go on what my girlfriend and ex-girlfriends have told me, but yeah, it rings pretty true to me. (Heck, even I've had far more bracing interactions online than I ever have face to face, and I don't consider myself an especially argumentative person.)
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

  6. Dyno

    Dyno Well-Known Member

    I didn't notice it on her until you pointed it out, but yeah, on him, it was off-putting enough that I had no interest in reading it.
  7. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I've found that a Twitter search is never a good place to start for fucking anything, though.
  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    1, That wasn't fiction.

    2, It had no heart or soul.

    3, It's a simple story of a boy and a girl. The end.
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  9. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Nah. I was a great piece of fiction, and sometimes fiction makes people uncomfortable and has unlikeable characters.
  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    They weren't even unlikeable. I would have embraced unlikeable in this situation. They were droll at best.
  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Yo, DD, remember at Funny Farm 2.0 during the book club ... you introduced The Things They Carried.

    I hadn't read it and enjoyed the first few chapters and thought it would be something I'd enjoy to the finish.

    And then I got to the chapter where the girlfriend -- or whatever her role was -- was introduced.

    I had a very hard time with that chapter because it felt like O'Brien labored so hard to write the female voice.

    I stopped reading the book at that point. Unfair? Probably. But my reading tires went flat after that chapter.

    This story felt the same way in that Roupenian fell woefully short in writing the male voice, the male tendency.

    She inhabited both characters with the same voice. There was no gender separation between the characters.
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  12. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    No gender separation between the two characters.

    Hmm. So, it was about two heartless pansexuals using each other?

    [No, I have not read it yet.]
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