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Can the euro be saved?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Stitch, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Mind that next post, desky. It's a special one.
     
  2. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Weren't there a whole lot of years in between that went pretty well? That said, most of these arguments were good reasons not to go to the Euro to begin with. To dump it now is a far different standard.
     
  3. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    So I guess the Euro's become "too big to fail." Where've I heard that before? At some point somewhere some big things are gonna have to allowed to fail.
     
  4. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    On that angle, Germany also benefits because the Deutsche Mark would probably be so much stronger than the Euro if it still existed, hurting exports.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Of course the Germans would solve that problem by doing what Germany does best. Invading its neighbors.
     
  6. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Which is why the European Coal and Steel Community was founded in the first place.
     
  7. Mystery Meat II

    Mystery Meat II Well-Known Member

    Bombing Pearl Harbor would be a good start.
     
  8. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    One issue that needs to be addressed is to give the European Parliament to draft legislation, which is a power currently held by the European Commission. The Council of the EU is not fully democratic as the 27 members represent their respective governments and share legislative power with the Parliament.
     
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    One of the only things I can things I can think of that could save the euro is for Germany to leave the Eurozone. Perhaps France, too. The currency is designed to be strong, and the ECB's monetary policy's focus is on keeping it strong. That hurts all the struggling countries, which need the currency to weaken, so the weight of the debts can be inflated away. Germany's inclusion ensures that the currency remains too strong.

    But that would be a tough choice for Germany to make. They have too much invested.

    As it stands, though, the currency won't last another year, and the band aids they are trying are not going to have long-term effect.
     
  10. JakeandElwood

    JakeandElwood Well-Known Member

    But if Germany leaves then who bails out the failing countries?
     
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    They default and recover down the line. Greece needs more than a bailout. It needs to deregulate the economy to allow for more competition. Going after tax evaders and raising the retirement age would help, too.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    With German (and France) in there, there isn't the money or the political will to keep throwing money into that bottomless pit. Germany can't do bail outs on that scale. Germany's economy isn't doing that well. It has its own problem. Same deal with France.

    Ultimately there isn't a bail out that exists that can end their problems. What they need is for the economies in Europe to start showing some decent growth. That is the only bail out that will work. The reality is that isn't probably in the cards for at least the next 5 years.
     
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