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Cal dumping baseball

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by novelist_wannabe, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I thought football was a money drain on an athletic department.

    That's what all the Title IX advocates say.
     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    That chart makes absolutely no sense. Cal football earned only $75K profit in 2008? Baseball had only 13 players? Golf lost $97.40?
     
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    First Rosebud, now this...
     
  4. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    They may have only had 13 receiving scholarship money. Though that doesn't make sense because it says Cal had 115 athletes but only 85 can receive scholarships. And men's basketball lists 15 and I think the scholly max is 12. That is puzzling.
     
  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I doubt all of those on crew and a few other sports are all on scholarship.
     
  6. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Football and men's basketball are always the ones that make money. It's why all the others are called nonrevenue sports. There may be exceptions, but I don't think there are many.
     
  7. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Cal baseball was a fully-funded program, 27 on scholarship.

    The Bears, like UCLA (until last season) were always a mystery, so much talent in the state and so much to attract athletes to each campus, but not much results.

    Fullerton, Long Beach and even Cal Poly were/are better baseball schools, because somebody there actually cared about the program. Cal's baseball facilities were an embarrassment for a Pac-10 school.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in this chart. When you add up the numbers, it shows a net loss of $495,000 for 2008. The cited shortfall for 2010 was $12 million to the entire department. Assuming the individual sports' numbers are somewhat similar from year to year, that's 96 percent of the shortfall that is not reflected in this "evidence." Even allowing for the cases where deficits doubled or tripled between '07 and '08 and assuming that path continued, this is murky at best. A whole lot of creative accounting and interpretation.

    And the ultimate point, that Title IX and women's basketball are the root of all the problems, is perfectly valid. However, tell it to the Supreme Court, because that law is not going anywhere.
     
  9. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    How can golf only lose $97, or even $470? I would think every dollar invested into golf, or any of the other low- or no-spectator sports would be impossible to recoup.

    And holy shit, what did womens softball, volleyball and basketball do to double or nearly triple their rate of loss between those two years? The economy and gas prices, I guess, but it still seems like a lot.
     
  10. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Sucked?
     
  11. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I did this story over a decade ago and at the time, there were six women's hoops teams, four women's volleyball teams, and one women's soccer team that turned a profit. That number has since gone up on women's hoops, but only by a few.
     
  12. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Lol. Just seemed a pretty drastic drop. I mean, unless they're perennial NCAA top contenders, how much can on-field performance really effect the women's softball attendance?
     
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