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Broncos Offense? Or Broncos' Offense?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Eagleboy, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. Eagleboy

    Eagleboy Guest

    After giving this some thought and asking around, I can't really get a consensus and figured I'd ask here to see all of your practices.

    I often see some variation of "The Broncos offense could not move the ball Sunday" a lot anymore and often wonder why it's not "The Broncos' offense." I've always used the latter and think to myself, the Broncos are the ones owning the offensive production, so it should be possessive.

    However, because it's used so often without the apostrophe (as in the example), I must be missing something. It can't be that widely-used without being corrected, can it? Is the clumped "Broncos offense" be considered one packaged noun?

    Or what about here: "The Saints coaching staff." Wouldn't it be "The Saints' coaching staff," since the Saints own the coaching staff? It's obvious when you substitute Sean Payton in there - "The Saints' Sean Payton" needs the possessive.

    It's all got my head spinning.

  2. WazzuGrad00

    WazzuGrad00 Guest

    If you can substitute the city name without an apostrophe, then it's probably not needed for the team name.
  3. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    The Broncos offense.
    The Denver defense.

    Not ...

    The Denver's defense.
  4. Angola!

    Angola! Guest

    My pet peeve is when writers change it to: Bronco offense. They are not the Bronco, they are the Broncos.
  5. joe king

    joe king Active Member

    No, but Denver's defense.
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Joe King is right.

    You substitute the city name, but don't use the "the"

    Denver's offense sucked
    The Broncos' offense sucked

    Denver quarterback John Elway
    Broncos quarterback John Elway
  7. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, but the sentence isn't constructed that way.
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Yes, but hopefully you would never use "The Denver offense" in a sentence.
  9. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    But I think the Broncos' offense works, too, because it is THEIR offense.
  10. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    The Broncos' kicker, Jason Elam....

    Broncos quarterback Jake Cutler
  11. The Denver omelet was terrible.
    The Broncos omelet tasted better, but I don't care for horse meat.
    The Broncos' oemlets were serverd to the press before the game.
  12. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    Just saying "Denver's defense..." works, too.
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