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British Muslim Leader: Piss us off and you'll have 2 million Muslim terrorists

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by poindexter, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=404525&in_page_id=1770
    Threat of up to two million Muslim terrorists, warns community leader
    By STEVE DOUGHTY

    Britain will face have to deal with up to two million Islamic terrorists unless there is an end to 'demonising' of Muslims, the leader of the most influential Muslim organisation has said.

    Treating all Muslims as if they were terrorists will encourage large numbers to become terrorists, Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari said.

    The warning from the chief of the Muslim Council of Britain - the grouping that Tony Blair's Government has considered the leading voice for Muslims - came amid rising tensions over the increasingly suspicious attitude to Muslims in the rest of society.

    Dr Bari declared: "Some police officers and sections of the media are demonising Muslims, treating them as if they are all terrorists, and that encourages other people to do the same.

    "If that demonisation continues, then Britain will have to deal with two million Muslim terrorists, 700,000 of them in London. "If you attack a whole community, it becomes despondent and aggressive," he added.

    The message from Dr Bari appeared to be aimed at muting criticism from police officers and broadcasters and newspapers who have questioned widely-held Muslim attitudes and at police officers who have called for greater surveillance of Muslims.

    It appeared to contain a measure of exaggeration - according to the last national census, there are fewer than 1.6 million Muslims in the country.

    But by suggesting that a majority of British Muslims may be prepared to support or engage in terrorism the Muslim Council chief may undermine figures who have tried to ward off attacks on Muslims.

    His view appears in particular to mock Scotland Yard Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick, who declared after the 7 July bombings last year that "Islamic and terrorist are two words that do not go together".

    In recent weeks a number of senior police officers have called for 'profiling' measures that would pick out Muslims for greater attention in security checks.

    Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist chief Peter Clarke said last week that thousands of Britism Muslims are now being watched, and last month Met superintendents' spokesman Chief Superintendent Simon Humphrey said it was "wholly unacceptable to portray the Asian community as victims".

    At the same time a series of highly-publicised surveys have shown that a high proportion of people are reluctant to sit next to a Muslim on public transport or would feel unhappy to have a Muslim neighbour.

    Dr Bari said in an interview with the Sunday Telegraph that he did not understand why "the whole of our diverse community" is being criticised.

    "We want to isolate that bad people and put them in the dock," he said. "But we all have to work together to do that: police, politicians, the media and the Muslim community."

    Security profiling at airports "reinforces a negative stereotype", he added.

    "When the IRA was blowing people up, the entire Catholic population of Britain was not demonised, so why is it happening to the Muslim community?" he asked.

    Another prominent Islamic figure also said that extremists had been falsely represented as typical of Muslims.

    But Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui of the Muslim Parliament said the responsibility lay on Muslim communities to expose and end the threat.

    Dr Siddiqui said: "Muslim failure to act robustly against extremist ideology provides ammunition to those who wish to pursue the Neo-con agenda by demonising Muslims and creating an atmosphere of fear and hatred within society."

    He added: "It is up to moderate Muslims to reclaim Islam and for a new generation of young Muslim activists and leaders to emerge who love both their country and their religion."

    Most mosques have remained immune to change and faith schools need to become more open to the wider society, he added.
     
  2. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Makes sense to me. Stop calling me a criminal or I'll become one.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Or stop acting like one and we'll stop calling you one.
     
  4. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    My point exactly.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I understand your point and I'm not trying to be a smart ass.

    But threatening to unleash more terrorists when you aren't doing anything to help prevent terrorism in the name of your religion in the first place isn't really helping improve the situation.

    There's a reason why Muslims are being demonised right now and it's not because the Western world hates Islam. You could also make the argument that the demonisation of Christians by Muslim extremists is the reason we're in the situation we're in to begin with.
     

  6. WTF?
    Islam and Christianity sailed right along for an awfully long time.
    Muslim extremists -- by whom you mean, I presume, the crazy-ass fundamentalist mullahs in the madrassas -- don't demonize Christianity, per se. (Note: There is no singular "Christianity" to demonize.) They demonize Jews, certainly, in the classic Christian manner, I might add. These extremist demonize "the West" for our Enlightenment values and for our popular culture and for the fact that we don't lock our womenfolk in the root cellar. It's not religious. It's a religion creating and operating a political and cultural conflict. The fact that most of the West is Christianized is accidental.
     
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