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Braun named NL ROY; Pedroia wins AL ROY

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gutter, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Why do you make this man cry?

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    I came up May 16, 1990...nine days earlier than Braun this year! Why don't I deserve the ROY? :)
     
  2. BYH

    BYH Active Member

  3. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    I think 1990 is the year Hamlin won at 28? I'm too lazy to look at the list.

    And Justice only had a monster two-month stretch. He barely played his first month after the call-up, IIRC.
     
  4. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    1994 is when Battlin' Bob Hamelin won it.

    And you're correct about Justice. He was on fire from Aug. 1 on, when he hit 20 of his 28 home runs. At the end of July, he was hitting .250, 8 HR, 28 RBI in 220 AB.
     
  5. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    For whatever reason, he uses WARP instead of WARP-3, which would give you a projection of their pace over a full 162 games. Still, Tulo wins the WARP-3 battle in a landslide, 11.1 - 4.8.
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    By all means, he should have used WARP-3. Winning the WARP-3 battle is always important.
     
  7. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you don't like it, I know. I was just answering the question about whether his analysis took into account the game difference. It didn't. I showed what it would have been if it did, eg. he'd reach the same conclusion.
     
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Over a scrub named Manny Ramirez.
     
  9. lantaur

    lantaur Well-Known Member

    Well, there is recent precedent. I give you Ryan Howard in 2005.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2005.shtml#NLroy
     
  10. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Right. And as BYH noted, there is historical precedent, too, with Justice.

    Still don't think a guy who plays 120 games can be more deserving than a guy who plays 150 games, unless he's just above and beyond everyone else.

    I ain't gonna lose sleep over Braun winning today -- he's got a strong, strong case. But so does Tulowitzki.
     
  11. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Still trying to wrap our head around this crazy thing called OBP, are we?

    (Kidding. I'm usually in favor of splitting the difference between the grizzled old baseball men and the people who treat it like a cross between Mathletes and Dungeons and Dragons.)
     
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