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Bill Simmons is leaving ESPN

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, May 8, 2015.

  1. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    If Simmons and Reilly are making the same money, I can 100% see why Simmons would want out.
     
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  2. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    I'm sure there is some sense of relief from both sides. He can do what he wants without being censored and ESPN doesn't have to listen to one of its best commodities complain about certain things.
     
  3. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    If I'm not mistaken, he and Reilly both make in the $3 million range.
     
  4. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    I bet your pants are so tight, RJ. You live for this shit.
     
  5. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    Whatever they paid Simmons was not enough. ESPN is a strong enough brand on its own however. Yet will 30/30 be altered?

    I think Simmons could be the rare guy to leave ESPN and not lose that much influence. Olbermann and Kilborn come to mind but they found success in non-sports formats.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    How long has Simmons worked for ESPN -- 20 years?

    That's an unbelievably long time to stick together in that industry.

    The relationship had run its course. They'll both be fine. I think Simmons with the Turner/BR team makes the most sense for his next move, but I could see a bidding war.

    ETA: OK story says 15 years. Still a really long time.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    From what I had read this has been brewing for a while. Simmons wanted out after the suspension and he thinks he can go independent -- maybe find a partner to do all the back-end stuff.

    If that happens, I think he is going to find out that earning the $3 million that ESPN was paying him is not so easy. And I don't think anyone else will pay him anything like that -- even if you attribute a halo effect to him, he's not worth that in added revenue.

    I won't count him totally out, but I suspect he is going to realize how good he had it.
     
  8. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying Simmons wasn't important to the network, but people who watch ESPN will still watch ESPN and those who enjoy Simmons will follow him wherever he goes.

    Maybe I'm just an old guy out of the demographic, but I'm driven by content, not who delivers it.

    Then again, I don't get all the angst over the departures of Jon Stewart and David Letterman and the such. People move on and there are a lot of other options left behind.
     
  9. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    I completely agree. I think he's a big enough name to go out on his own and I think he'll be successful, but he's going to have to rebuild his brand. People have mentioned Carolla and it's a good comparison. Carolla lost money on his podcast for about a year before he started making money and he's one of the few who is making a lot of money doing it. Simmons may be able to do a better podcast without the restrictions of ESPN, but it will likely take him a bit of time to consistently get the audience that he had with the ESPN name behind him.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That's a real lack of understanding about TV and entertainment to think people are going to watch whatever's on because it's on that channel.
     
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  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Yup. Just ask CNN. Or NBC for that matter.
     
  12. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    People said that for years about Leno. "Oh, people are just watching because they're used to watching The Tonight Show." and then he left, Conan took over and people stopped watching.

    When people watch, or listen to or read something or someone on a daily basis for 15-25 years, it cannot be a given that they will hang around for the replacement.

    I'm sure ESPN is saying, "We'll be OK without him." with Simmons and I'm sure they're right, but they are a lot better with him.
     
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