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Bill James makes HOF case for Dwight Evans

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mizzougrad96, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. 1HPGrad

    1HPGrad Member

    Jose Guillen belongs on that list, near the top.
  2. Gillette237

    Gillette237 Member

    To heck with the Hall, give Dewey an Oscar for his excellent work in "Hall Pass."
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The engine that drives statistical analysis of baseball players is wins. What we are really asking, in evaluating any athlete, is, "How many games did he win for his team?"
  4. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Dwight Evans is widely regarded as one of the two or three best defensive right fielders in major league history, and he was clearly a significantly better hitter than Bill Mazeroski, who got in because he is widely regarded as one of the two or three best defensive second basemen in major league history.

    I'm not saying he should be in. (I'm definitely not saying Mazeroski should be in.) But I would have no problem with Evans making it. He was better than Jim Rice.
  5. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Mazeroski got in because some people on the old Veterans Committee were absent from their annual meeting and Joe Brown, the old Pirates GM, was able to take advantage of that, call in favors and get him enough votes.

    Mazeroski was a fine defensive player, but he has no business in the Hall of Fame.
  6. Corky Ramirez up on 94th St.

    Corky Ramirez up on 94th St. Well-Known Member

    He and Dave Parker had two of the best arms for a right fielder in the late 70s. I still can see Evans taking his long stride before throwing a bullet. I remember people were upset when the Sox gave Manny No. 24, because many feel his number should have been retired.

    And not to threadjack, but I loved watching the brute strength of Parker. Remember his two outfield assists in the '79 All-Star game? He owned that season.
  7. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Not before Olerud
  8. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    I mistakenly thought at first this was best right field arms. Wow, that tripped me up for a while.

    That's just a bit too high, but Barfield had a freaking cannon.

    Anyway, spitballing here:

    1. Clemente
    2. Bo Jackson
    3. Barfield
    4. Parker
    5. Mays
    6. Winfield
    7. Mondesi
    8. J. Guillen
    9. Evans
    T-10. Ichiro, Vlad, Ellis Valentine, Carl Furillo, Larry Walker
  9. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Adam Jones gets no love? He was throwing 96 mph in high school.
  10. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    No he does not. He was an outstanding player, true. He wasn't a Hall of Famer.
  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    At great length, with many charts, and with methodology partially unexplained, Bill James, "The Godfather of Baseball Statistics," disagrees.
  12. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Here's the ultimate chart. I have NEVER heard anyone say they were going to a Red Sox game to see Dwight Evans play. Case closed.
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