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Bill Carter discusses the state (and future of) late night TV

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Smasher_Sloan, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Some interesting stuff:


    Says the "Tonight Show" will lose money for the first time ever, predicts that networks will eventually drop 12:30 shows and make the 11:30 shows 90 minutes to save production costs on second show.
  2. apeman33

    apeman33 Well-Known Member

    Might as well complete going full circle by going 105 minutes, like Tonight was in the first year or so of Carson's tenure. Because everybody wants to see Leno suck from 10:30 to 12:15 (Central and Mountain).
  3. Corky Ramirez up on 94th St.

    Corky Ramirez up on 94th St. Well-Known Member

    There was a very good article in last week's New Yorker about late night talk shows, specifically Dick Cavett's.

    That's really all I have.
  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I can see NBC convincing Leno why having Jimmy Fallon co-host the Tonight Show will be a great move, and they'll add Carson Daly as an announcer so they don't have to eat another contract.
  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    More proof that ABC is doing it right. Nightline and Kimmel take them to 1 a.m. for probably a fraction of what it costs for Leno/Fallon or Letterman/Ferguson.

    In Carter's book, I think he said something about Ferguson having something in his contract that says he gets Letterman's job if something happens to Dave. Not sure if that means he gets it when Dave retires, but I'm guessing that will be the case.

    What I think is interesting, and surprising, is that the networks don't want Jon Stewart. They think he doesn't appeal to an older demographic. He's been passed over twice, for Kimmel and Ferguson.
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    I assume a successor for Letterman would be largely up to Letterman, since he owns the show and Ferguson's. If Ferguson got that in his contract, he got it from Dave.
  7. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    If CBS is faced with the prospect of having Ferguson on at 11:35, they'll arrange to have him hit by a bus.
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    They're right. He's way too smart for 11:35. He wouldn't make blue hairs feel nice and cozy.
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I just assumed that after the whole Conan debacle that Stewart would eventually wind up with The Tonight Show after Leno finally retires.

    From the sounds of it, and not like this is a bad thing, but Stewart has found his niche and will never move beyond it.
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Hell, I'm old. I'd like to meet these old folks who stay up to watch late night, because I haven't seen a late night program except the end of a few big games in years. Of course, I still work.
    Stewart is already getting ratings competitive with Leno and Letterman (in October, he beat them). It's not demographics. The network news divisions would shit if a guy who makes his living showing how stupid they are got a show on their network. So would the board of directors.
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