Being Kristol Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry

Fenian_Bastard · Dec 29, 2007

If any sports columnist was as wrong as this guy's been over the past seven years, the bowling agate desk would await him.
Nice job, liberal NYT.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/28/bill-kristol-to-become-e_n_78635.html

hondo · Dec 29, 2007

By "wrong" you actually mean "doesn't agree with me."

markvid · Dec 29, 2007

This is just a move to appease Bill O'Reilly

Ben_Hecht · Dec 29, 2007

Provably wrong . . . demonstrably wrong . . .

Probably due to get a medal from Bushie, sometime before January '09.

king cranium maximus IV · Dec 29, 2007

By "wrong" you actually mean "doesn't agree with me."
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no, by wrong we mean:

He’s [Saddam Hussein] got weapons of mass destruction. At some point he will use them or give them to a terrorist group to useâ€¦Look, if we free the people of Iraq we will be respected in the Arab worldâ€¦.France and Germany don’t have the courage to face up to the situation. That’s too bad. Most of Europe is with us. And I think we will be respected around the world for helping the people of Iraq to be liberated.
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and

We are tempted to comment, in these last days before the war, on the U.N., and the French, and the Democrats. But the war itself will clarify who was right and who was wrong about weapons of mass destruction. It will reveal the aspirations of the people of Iraq, and expose the truth about Saddam's regime. It will produce whatever effects it will produce on neighboring countries and on the broader war on terror. We would note now that even the threat of war against Saddam seems to be encouraging stirrings toward political reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia, and a measure of cooperation in the war against al Qaeda from other governments in the region. It turns out it really is better to be respected and feared than to be thought to share, with exquisite sensitivity, other people's pain. History and reality are about to weigh in, and we are inclined simply to let them render their verdicts.
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There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America ... that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq's always been very secular.
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The United States committed itself to defeating terror around the world. We committed ourselves to reshaping the Middle East, so the region would no longer be a hotbed of terrorism, extremism, anti-Americanism, and weapons of mass destruction. The first two battles of this new era are now over. The battles of Afghanistan and Iraq have been won decisively and honorably. But these are only two battles. We are only at the end of the beginning in the war on terror and terrorist states.
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[T]here are hopeful signs that Iraqis of differing religious, ethnic, and political persuasions can work together. This is a far cry from the predictions made before the war by many, both here and in Europe, that a liberated Iraq would fracture into feuding clans and unleash a bloodbath. The perpetually sour American media focus on the tensions between Shiites and Kurds that delayed the signing by three whole days. But the difficult negotiations leading up to the signing, and the continuing debates over the terms of a final constitution, have in fact demonstrated something remarkable in Iraq: a willingness on the part of the diverse ethnic and religious groups to disagree--peacefully--and then to compromise. This willingness is the product of what appears to be a broad Iraqi consensus favoring the idea of pluralism.
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(quote taken from 2004)

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What the Bush administration did say--and what so many reporters seem to have trouble understanding--is that Iraq and al Qaeda had a relationship that, by its very existence, posed a potential threat to the United States.
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Just four weeks after the Iraqi election of January 30, 2005, it seems increasingly likely that that date will turn out to have been a genuine turning point. The fall of the Berlin Wall on November 9, 1989, ended an era. September 11, 2001, ended an interregnum. In the new era in which we now live, 1/30/05 could be a key moment--perhaps the key moment so far--in vindicating the Bush Doctrine as the right response to 9/11. And now there is the prospect of further and accelerating progress.
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All this made me think the 2006 elections could result in a Speaker Pelosi. I now think that unlikely. Pelosi's endorsement today of the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq makes the House Democrats the party of defeat, the party of surrender.
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and on. and on. and bloody, american-killing, reputation-ruining on.

Ben_Hecht · Dec 29, 2007

Jesus, don't confuse folks with facts. It's tough enough to get through the day.

Fenian_Bastard · Dec 29, 2007

Then, there was what he said about his newest employer:

â€œI think it is an open question whether the Times itself should be prosecuted for this totally gratuitous revealing of an ongoing secret classified program that is part of the war on terror.â€ [Fox News, 7/2/06]
â€œI think the Justice Department has an obligation to consider prosecution.â€ [Fox News, 6/25/06]

Stockholm Syndrome at the Sulzberger manse.

Lyman_Bostock · Dec 29, 2007

Wrong = don't agree with me. Confirmed.

zeke12 · Dec 29, 2007

Lyman_Bostock said:

Wrong = don't agree with me. Confirmed.
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Lyman, I've told you this before, and I'll tell you this again, I'm sure: You're smarter than that argument.

Bill Kristol has been shown over the past five years to be completely divorced from reality. That isn't partisan. That's just true.

Lyman_Bostock · Dec 29, 2007

Zeke12 said:

Lyman_Bostock said:

Wrong = don't agree with me. Confirmed.
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Lyman, I've told you this before, and I'll tell you this again, I'm sure: You're smarter than that argument.

Bill Kristol has been shown over the past five years to be completely divorced from reality. That isn't partisan. That's just true.
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Zeke, sometimes things come down to the basics. After all, it's our job to be simple and direct, right?

If we're going to start suggesting columnists who are "wrong" be banished from the medium, we're going to have a lot fewer columnists.

BYH · Dec 29, 2007

hondo said:

By "wrong" you actually mean "doesn't agree with me."
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that's right Hondo. It's just that simple.

Simple man, simple life.

shotglass · Dec 29, 2007

Lyman_Bostock said:

If we're going to start suggesting columnists who are "wrong" be banished from the medium, we're going to have a lot fewer columnists.
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And that is ... a bad thing?

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