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Baseball's Dominican investigation

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    I started a thread for this because I think it can stand on its own and I didn't want it to get lost in all the bullshit that dominates a baseball thread these days. Please, no 'fuck you Cubs fans,' no, 'fuck you Mets fans,' no, 'you are a dickhead.' Save this thread, please, for this topic.

    Can someone explain in simple terms what is going on, what is being investigated?

    I've seen some stories that says it is centering on the Nats and the signing of Smiley "18 my ass" Gonzalez. Skimming bonuses? Yet the kid says he got everything he was promised, has been paid all he was owed. I feel like I'm missing something.

    The Nats Nation is all a-twitter over this as some think it will be what brings down Bowden. But I haven't seen anything to lead me to that conclusion yet. Again with the feeling that I'm missing something obvious.

    So a little help, please? Much appreciated.
  2. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    The investigation into Bowden and others stems from a tip MLB received several months ago alleging that then-White Sox senior personnel director Dave Wilder and two of his scouts were skimming bonus money paid to Dominican signees, according to the MLB source. Wilder was stopped while trying to re-enter the United States with roughly $40,000 in cash after a trip to the Dominican Republic, a source told ESPN, sparking a broader inquiry. Wilder could not be reached for comment.

    In mid-May, Wilder and scouts Victor Mateo and Domingo Toribio were fired by the White Sox, who revealed that federal authorities also were looking into the matter.

    After MLB received its tip in March, its investigations department launched a wide-ranging examination of signing practices in the Dominican -- a probe that has led to allegations involving employees of several clubs, including Bowden and other Nationals employees, sources said.

    Anyone implicated could face felony fraud charges, sources familiar with the investigation said.

  3. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    The MLB investigations unit is "looking at everything, A to Z, speaking to players, scouts, people that run the academies," the source said. The unit also is delving into the issue of access to, and distribution of, steroids to ballplayers in the Dominican.
  4. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks. Though much of that is what confuses me, if this thing indeed centers on Gonzalez. I'll try to find the link to the SI.com story.

  5. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Does the investigation center on Gonzalez or is he the last, most visible straw before MLB said enough?
  6. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    That's what I'm trying to figure out. But he says he wasn't hosed, that he got what they said he'd get.
  7. I'm far from being a fan of Jim Bowden but this seems like deflection to me. It is the White Sox who should be getting all the heat - not the Nationals. It was their Director of Scouting - Dave Wilder - and two of his scouts who have been fired already for skimming money. Why is this a Nationals scandal? Because the FBI spoke to Bowden and Rios? The FBI was probably asking them about Dave Wilder.

    Oh and while I'm talking about Dave Wilder - he got caught because he was trying to re-enter the US with $40,000 in cash. Why didn't he just say he won the money at one of the casinos on the Dominican?
  8. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks, Chris. That is what is confusing me - the White Sox have fired people and Gonzalez' signing is the focus?
  9. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Of the investigation into the Nats, perhaps. But the ESPN story (citing other stories that have been done, as well) makes clear that every team is being investigated regarding bonus skimming.
  10. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I don't understand how they're skimming the money.
  11. Armchair - say some kid is really a 4th round pick quality but you pump him up as a scout to be a the equivalent of a second rounder with the agreement that you somehow split the difference between a 4th round bonus money and the 2nd round bonus money - that's one way to skim. It's the team that loses out. That's why the rich teams like the Red Sox and Yankees who have lots invested in Caribbean scouting would be less likely to fall victim to such scams because they check and recheck a players worth. Teams with fewer resources don't have the ability to have such granular information. When you have the guy in charge of scouting participating in the scam (like with the White Sox) - then probably the only way it gets caught is if someone talks or someone makes a dumbass mistake (like trying to bring back lots of cash from a drug smuggling mecca).
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    So the kid from the Nats could be lying about receiving everything he was guaranteed then.
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