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Baseball rules question

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Sea Bass, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    Man on first. Batter hits a liner down the first base line. 1B playing behind bag, goes to his left and gets a very small piece of the ball while it's still in the air and in fair.

    Ball, after touching first baseman's glove, lands foul, past the bag, and goes all the way down into the RF corner. Base ump doesn't see 1B make contact with ball, sees ball land foul, calls it foul. Both batter and runner stop after hearing ump's call.

    However, after consulting with his partner, base ump changes call to fair.

    Where can/should the umps place the runner and hitter?
  2. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Put them on first and second, then bring in a Red Sox reliever to give up a game-winning 3-run home run.
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  3. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    Rule 5.05(a) ...

    (9) Any fair fly ball is deflected by the fielder into the stands, or over the fence into foul territory, in which case the batter shall be entitled to advance to second base; but if deflected into the stands or over the fence in fair territory, the batter shall be entitled to a home run. However, should such a fair fly be deflected at a point less than 250 feet from home plate, the batter shall be entitled to two bases only.

    So put them at second and third, in my opinion.

    Until I looked that up, I never realized "ground-rule double" is a misnomer. In the Rules, it's an "automatic double." Huh.
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019
  4. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    Since I was a kid, it was ground-rule double. Vin Scully said so. Then some douchebags started calling it book-rule double. I think they were talking to the patrons at Augusta.
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  5. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    I would say 1st and 2nd also, but it would have to go to review, and you can be rest assured someone is getting ejected.
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  6. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    You’d probably also toss some one to make sure people knew you were there.
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  7. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

  8. jackfinarelli

    jackfinarelli Well-Known Member

    I believe this is completely a judgment call by the umps based on where he/they believed the most likely outcome would have been without the missed call. It could be first and second. It could be second and third. If the umpire(s) thought the right fielder was shifted so far toward left field that he could have taken an inning-and-a-half to get to the ball in the right field corner, maybe they give the batter a triple. It is their call - - unless they rule something that is so outrageous that the overseers in NYC tell them to "chill out".

    Because I think this is a judgement call and that there will be outrage in whichever dugout the call is made non-beneficially, the most likely outcome of this entire matter is that someone will be thrown out of the game where all this happened.
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