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Baseball Hall of Fame Veterans

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by heyabbott, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. lantaur

    lantaur Well-Known Member

    I'd love to see someone explain why Bowie Kuhn deserves to be in the Hall. Helpng blacklist Jim Bouton? Not showing up for Hank Aaron's No. 715? Being the commish during the 1981 strike? The '72 mini-strike? The start of the DH? Oh yeah, he instituted the first night World Series game so now my kids can't watch any of the games.
     
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Kept rooting for him to contract pneumonia when not wearing a topcoat during some of those ridiculous deep-freeze night WS games.

    An astonishing piece of owner-stroking garbage.

    Rot in hell, deadbeat.
     
  3. mpcincal

    mpcincal Well-Known Member

    It's interesting Kuhn gets in at the same time as Walter O'Malley. IIRC, a few people accused Kuhn, rightly or wrongly, of being a lackey for the Dodgers' owner. I remember one writer saying "when O'Malley requests coffee at the owner's meeting, Kuhn asks 'do you want one lump of sugar or two?'"
     
  4. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    O'Malley was perhaps the most influential owner in baseball at the time, certainly in the National League. He commanded the respect of his fellow owners and was the key guy in any significant vote that was to be taken. Kuhn was his lackey. Reads "Lords of the Realm" or Marvin's book "A Whole Different Ballgame" which both provide plenty of examples.
     
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I just don't understand how you can vote in Kuhn and not Miller or Buck O'Neill.
    It reminds me of the scene in Remember The Titans, "Coach, you can forget about the Hall of Fame." Any Hall of Fame does a disservice to its mission by being used as a way to settle old scores.
    What a joke. Do these clowns voting think they're helping baseball? Do they think they are getting payback? Are they ignorant, deceitful, or just scoundrels?
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    O'Malley rolled into a gold mine in L.A., and with the decline and fall of the Yankees in the early 1960s, including the mismanaged period of CBS ownership, was pretty much the strong man of baseball for about 15 years. And yes, the main function of Bowie Kuhn was to shine his shoes.
     
  7. PhantomPunch

    PhantomPunch Guest

    Marvin Miller is a Hall of Famer if Bowie Kuhn is.

    Any day, any year, any time.
     
  8. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

     
  9. Hank_Scorpio

    Hank_Scorpio Active Member

     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Marvin Miller shouldn't fret. After all, Barney created the World Series and they voted him in just 70 years after he died.
     
  11. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    I'm no Bowie fan, but he didn't blacklist Bouton. In fact, the false furor he created over "Ball Four" was the book's best promotion.
     
  12. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    I don't claim to know Marvin Miller, but I was covering during his regime. I suspect he considers his HOF exclusion to be a bigger validation of his impact than a plaque would be.
     
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