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Baseball Hall of Fame, Class of '08

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by PhilaYank36, Dec 27, 2007.

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Who would you vote into the Baseball Hall of Fame?

  1. Rod Beck (P - 1st year)

    3 vote(s)
    3.1%
  2. Bert Blyleven (P - 47.7% in 2007)

    57 vote(s)
    59.4%
  3. Dave Concepcion (SS - 13.6)

    10 vote(s)
    10.4%
  4. Andre Dawson (OF - 56.7)

    51 vote(s)
    53.1%
  5. Chuck Finley (P - 1st)

    3 vote(s)
    3.1%
  6. Rich "Goose" Gossage (P - 71.2)

    84 vote(s)
    87.5%
  7. Tommy John (P - 22.9)

    14 vote(s)
    14.6%
  8. David Justice (OF - 1st)

    2 vote(s)
    2.1%
  9. Don Mattingly (1B - 9.9)

    10 vote(s)
    10.4%
  10. Mark McGwire (1B - 23.5)

    18 vote(s)
    18.8%
  11. Jack Morris (P - 37.1)

    42 vote(s)
    43.8%
  12. Dale Murphy (OF - 9.2)

    13 vote(s)
    13.5%
  13. Robb Nen (P - 1st)

    1 vote(s)
    1.0%
  14. Dave Parker (OF - 11.4)

    7 vote(s)
    7.3%
  15. Tim Raines (OF - 1st)

    45 vote(s)
    46.9%
  16. Jim Rice (OF - 63.5)

    52 vote(s)
    54.2%
  17. Lee Smith (P - 39.8 )

    24 vote(s)
    25.0%
  18. Alan Trammell (SS - 13.4)

    20 vote(s)
    20.8%
  1. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Bert, Goose and Rice.

    Right some wrongs, BBWAA.
     
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Goose.

    Have a good time with the others, gents.
     
  3. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

     
  4. Claws for Concern

    Claws for Concern Active Member

    Goose and Blyleven and I'd be very happy. I like Raines, too, but it's likely he'll be on the bench year after year until his time runs out on the ballot.
     
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    OK, dools, I'll throw down the gauntlet. I defy anyone to give me a coherent argument for continuing to leave Blyleven out. (I'll let someone else do the legwork on Goose and Rice, though I know it can be done.)
     
  6. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Been there done that on Blyleven's woodworkery. I just wanted to get a rise out of you, is all. As for Gossage, too few dominant years; only argument for him being in is that Eckersley got in, so why not. Rice, I don't have a strong feeling against; you mentioned him tho, so for the sake of the integrity of the fun with the quote function, he had to stay.
     
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.
     
  8. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Making him perhaps the most successful 3-4 starter in baseball history, but not making him a Hall of Famer. Nor does having one of the worst seasons of giving up home runs since 1900, and this was before the PED era.
     
  9. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Nolan Ryan had some brutal seasons, and he got 98.8 percent of the vote. Blyleven was also top-ten in ERA 10 times, top 10 in Ks/9 14 times and top 10 in WHIP 11 times.

    Blyleven likely won't be passed in K's and WILL NOT be passed in shutouts -- and he's top 10 in both. Every year he isn't in the Hall loses a little credibility. All because people couldn't admit they might have been wrong the first time around.

    If the waiting period really means anything, then baseball writers need to take another look at the numbers and admit that they overlooked Blyleven while he was playing and do the right thing now.
     
  10. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    On what planet do no. 3/4 starters rank among the top 20 over more than a century in three major pitching categories?
     
  11. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Goose, Raines, Blyleven, Trammel
     
  12. budcrew08

    budcrew08 Active Member

    A case for Jim Ed:
    16 seasons, 2452 hits.
    .298 lifetime batting average/.352 OBP/.502 slugging for his career
    1,451 RBIs, 6 seasons batting over .300 and two others over .290.
    MVP in 1978, 6 top-5 finishes in the MVP voting overall
    2-time Silver Slugger, led the league in total bases four times, including the monster season in 1978 when he had 406 for the season.
    Actually led the league in triples (!) with 15 in 1978.
     
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