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Baseball darkest moments?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Ilmago, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. Ilmago

    Ilmago Guest

    What was baseball's darkest moment? I'm not talking about something that happened over time, like the color line. I'm thinking in real time here: At what exact moment did baseball experience its darkest hour?

    Here's a few I can think of:

    * Hugh Fullerton's first story about the 1919 fix hitting the press.

    * Bart Giamatti's press conference about Pete Rose's gambling.

    * The cancelling of the 1994 season

    * The death of Ray Chapman or Roberto Clemente (Thurman Munson?)

    * The announcement of the Pittsburgh drug trials in 1985

    * Announcement of collusion damages in 1988 (and beyond)

    *Cap Anson's refusal to play a team with blacks sure didn't help

    Any others that come to mind? What was baseball's darkest moment?
  2. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    I'm extremely biased of course. But here's my winner:

    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 15, 2014
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'd put the ongoing steroid scandal as the darkest time in baseball. Basically, nothing that's happened the last 20 years should count.
  4. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Babe Ruth never had to face a black pitcher.

    But Barry Bonds' home runs "shouldn't count"?


    Steroid years were just an "era", every bit as unfortunately legitimate as a dead-ball era, a spitters-are-legal era, a throwing-games era, a rabbit-ball era and a no-blacks-in-baseball era.
  5. Ilmago

    Ilmago Guest

    So you compare Babe Ruth not facing Black Pitchers to Barry Bonds taking steroids? Wow!

    Just because George didn't face Black pitchers, doesn't mean that he couldn't hit them. If I do some research, I can find some stats of Ruth facing black pitchers, and they were pretty good numbers.
  6. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    As for those great black pitchers relegated to the Negro League, keep in mind: They didn't have to face Babe Ruth, either.

    Me included. ;)
  7. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    Wasn't there a catcher who killed himself during a season? Willard Hershberger, I believe his name was, and it had something to do with letting down his teammates or something.

    I think the 1919 Black Sox rates pretty high on this list.
  8. Ilmago

    Ilmago Guest

    Well said, but it wasn't only Babe Ruth, it was Speaker, Gehrig, Cobb, Foxx, Hornsby, Wagner, Collins and that's just to mention a few.
  9. Ilmago

    Ilmago Guest

    Yeah, Willard commited suicide, he slashed his throat.
  10. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    1. Nick Punto getting thrown out at third against the Yankees in the 2009 ALDS.
    2. Nick Punto going on the DL like three times this season.
    3. Nick Punto riding the bench after coming off the DL.
    4. Nick Punto playing in the AL and not coming to Atlanta.
    5. All-Star Game tie.
    6. Black Sox.
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    All of it is baseball's darkest moment until there's a salary cap. [/outofplace]
  12. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    They cancelled a World freaking Series, something they didn't do during World War I, World War II or even when an earthquake shook the region where all of the games were being played. Something they played (in New York) after 9/11. And yet, they cancelled it due to a labor problem.
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