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Avoiding risk of spoiling a non-political thread: Kan. women, toilets and Obama

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Yawn, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

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  2. beardpuller

    beardpuller Active Member

    Leaving aside the nonlogic of the premise, and the third-grade level writing of this clown, posted below is your answer RE Rev. Wright, in Obama's words.
    By the way, I love how your douchebag states that Obama "likes to put distance between himself and Wright, suggesting that they were never all that close to begin with," but "the fact is, as the WSJ reports, as have others, that Wright is Obama’s 'longtime minister, friend and adviser.' "
    Gosh, are you sure??? I mean, it is shocking, the way Obama has (never) denied this, the way he narrated his journey to Rev. Wright's church in his first book, written 13 years ago.
    It would be quite a scandal, this denial that Wright is his minister, if it wasn't a total crock of made-up shit, like pretty much everything else you post.

    On My Faith and My Church
    Posted March 14, 2008 | 04:28 PM (EST)


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    The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.

    Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
    Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

    As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

    Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

    The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.

    Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

    With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.
     
  3. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Not only has Obama clearly come out against a lot of what Wright said -- a fact ignored by the uber-intelligent Yawn -- there's also a slight bit of truth in some of the other statements made by Wright, namely that racism has been, and may still be, a big part of America. If it wasn't Obama being black or any other race (or HRC being a woman) wouldn't even register on the radar.

    But yes, if I wrapped my head in aluminum foil and concentrated on the voices and instructions from my overlords from Zenthar, then yes, I'd believe a potential connection between the stuck-on-toilet story and this Obama tripe.
     
  4. Grimace

    Grimace Guest

    Give him a break. Yawn is not a journalist or involved in the newspaper industry. But he has friends that work for some newspapers somewhere, so, there you go.
     
  5. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    I invite you to send one of your scolding Den Mother letters to the man who wrote this. I'm, um, sure he'd walk away feeling inferior or guilty.
     
  6. beardpuller

    beardpuller Active Member

    Actually, the clown I was referring to is the writer of the linked piece, not Yawn. I find Yawn's take on many things frustratingly obtuse, and downright loopy, but I wouldn't diss his writing.
     
  7. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    If my happiness rested on trying to make you or anyone with whom you share your beliefs feel inferior or guilty, I'd put a bullet in my head. Fortunately, I have an abundance of REAL things in life which make me happy.

    You, on the other hand, are like a pesky roach, spreading filth wherever you go. I'm just trying to spray a little Raid on you in the hopes that your hate-filled invective will go away.

    Free speech is one thing. Sowing hatred and trouble is another thing entirely. And, uh, since you've never taken the time to serve, you might remember the old saying...
    Freedom is never free. Speak your mind, then be man enough to take the verbal asskicking you deserve.
     
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