Arizona, site of next Super Bowl, sends anti-gay bill to governor

And why did those black folk need to be treated well at Denny's anyway? Couldn't they have eaten at IHOP?

Good Christ.

 

Apples and oranges dude.
Anyone can go in and eat at Denny's. Gays aren't chased from there.
We're talking about assisting in a ceremony. It's really no different than opting out of the military draft in the 60s on religious grounds.

 

You're forcing people to do something against their religion. Something about separation of church and state there....again, take the money and go give to someone that will do you a good job.

 

Fortunately for you, Apple and Marriott called the governor and expressed their intention to do just that. Miracle of the marketplace!

 

What religion bans people from serving customers who are gay?

And if the NFL thinks the possibility of also hosting the Pro Bowl might help Arizona see the light, they're probably mistaken.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/25/report-league-strongly-considering-arizona-pro-bowl/

 

Actually, apples and apples. If a business is discriminating against gays, it's exactly the same as Denny's not allowing black customers. Sure, they COULD (and per your point, probably SHOULD) go to IHOP. But why should they have to?

 

Hell, what if the Cardinals draft him?

I don't remember the timeline but how many months out was the NFL from Super Bowl XXVII when they pulled it?

 

Two or three years in advance. By the time that Super Bowl was played (it was the Cowboys' first rout of the Bills, in Pasadena), Arizona had already voted in MLK Day.

 

I understand the point about not doing business with a business that engages in discriminatory practices. But the discriminatory practice is still wrong to begin with.

The First Amendment only comes into play for religious organizations and institutions. A private, for-profit business that serves the general public doesn't qualify as such.

A person refusing to do business with gays because the person doesn't believe in gay marriage is like an atheist refusing to serve Christians because the atheist thinks Christianity is hogwash. You're using your belief (religious or otherwise) for the sake of deciding who you want to do business with, which translates to discrimination, and that's wrong.

 

Be interesting to see if they could pull it off in less than 12 months.

 

Yeah, but I don't think it will be necessary. Sounds like the calls from Apple and Marriott, plus just the idea of the NFL making that move, are causing cooler heads to prevail.

 

Oh, there's no way in hell Brewer signs it. At this point, it's just a question of when she vetoes it. I suspect it's done late tomorrow afternoon. She just returned from DC today, so by tomorrow she can say she talked to both sides and decided on a veto. Typically she'd stretch it out and milk it, but the publicity isn't helping anyone.

Jan Brewer is not an intelligent woman by any stretch of the imagination, but she's very politically savvy. This is a no-brainer for her.