Another ridiculous smoking ban, another nail in the coffin of civil liberties.

To be fair, bonfire smoke does not carry the same health risks as second-hand smoke from tobacco.

 

Really? If that is true, then why is there never smoke damage in a bar, but there is smoke damage when a house is on fire?

I don't want to argue that, but I would like a link.

 

Re: Another ridiculous smoking ban, another nail in the coffin of civil libertie

Most cities won't allow you to just build a bonfire in your backyard at any time. Drought or not.

You've got to get permits to do one within city limits.

 

I've had a health problem over the past few years, and I actually had a doctor tell me this particular problem might have to do with my parents' chain smoking throughout my childhood. I was basically a smoker from age 1 - age 13.

Keep the smoke the fuck away from me and my kid.

 

I agree with the late, great George Carlin on this one, though I can't remember the exact line. Paying for stuff is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't paying for fucking legal?

I think the distinction being made legally between porn and prostitution is that in porn, the actors are theoretically choosing as consenting adults to engage in sexual activity together and being paid simply for allowing the cameras in the room, while prostitutes are paid for the sexual acts themselves.

Sounds like bullshit, but I think that is the reasoning.

 

I'd like a link showing me that bonfire smoke can cause cancer, though I guess it depends on what materials you burn.

 

Some smokers can be among the rudest people around. They start by polluting everyone else's air. When they finish a cigarette, they flip it, either out of the car, or onto the ground. I always remember a time at Walt Disney World when I saw a mom pushing her kid along in a stroller, both hands on the stroller, cigarette in the right hand, dropping ashes. Classy.

Litter the air, litter the sidewalk . . . please stay away from me and the people I care about, because we try to stay as healthy as possible.

People should be allowed to smoke. But it is proven beyond all doubt that smoking is a health hazard. There is asolutely no positive effect to smoking, other than for the coffers of the tobacco companies. It kills lungs, and is a fire hazard.

If the government wants to step in, or if people are give the opportunity to vote on whether they would like to shuffle smokers to a place where their influence on the air is minimal, I'm all for it.

 

Well , they did that back then. They didn't have the information that it was bad, especially for pregnant women.

 

Re: Another ridiculous smoking ban, another nail in the coffin of civil libertie

It's the like that in the entire state where I live and has been for over 5 years. And before our token Libertarian gets wound up about imposing on civil liberties and constitutional rights on a statewide basis, it was done as an amendment added to the state constitution by the voters rather than being initiated by the state legislature1.

1Which kept voting against the proposal because of the turds in the hospitality/restaurant lobby, despite the fact that popular opinion polls kept showing that most people were in favor of the ban. Funny how their profits actually went up after implementation because non-smokers found the clean air to be more enjoyable.

 

My parents both smoked for 40+ years. They eventually quit, cold turkey, and it helped. Although they both eventually died of smoking-related diseases (dad, lung cancer; mom, COPD), the doctors were unanimous quitting added years to their lives (mom, 6-8; dad, 15+).

In addition, their house didn't stink like shit anymore.

Nobody smokes near me. I go Darth Vader on it from the get-go. I TELL (not ask) people to put out their cancer sticks the second they light up. If i hear anything other than "yes sir," I slap it out of their mouths.

At a Rolling Stones concert a few years ago at an indoor stadium, I threw a punk-ass kid down 10 rows of concrete steps because he kept torching up right in front of us. I didn't pay $100 a ticket to breathe in your cancer gas.

 

Check out the City of Cleveland's application for open burning:

http://www.lyndhurst-oh.com/lfd_openburningpermit1.pdf

Which means the block party I went to Saturday night did not get permission for its campfire, since they are prohibited.

 

Folks, most bonfires are not inside of populated city limits. I like to think of woods and lakes when I think of a bonfire.

Starman, come on. I know it's rude, but so is physical assault.