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Another education thread: Rich-poor gap grows as black-white narrows

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by LongTimeListener, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member


    Chart shows reading levels, which were the same among rich and poor into the late '60s, are now about two grade levels different.

    “We have moved from a society in the 1950s and 1960s, in which race was more consequential than family income, to one today in which family income appears more determinative of educational success than race,” said Sean F. Reardon, a Stanford University sociologist. Professor Reardon is the author of a study that found that the gap in standardized test scores between affluent and low-income students had grown by about 40 percent since the 1960s, and is now double the testing gap between blacks and whites.

    Data for these studies was collected before the recent recession, and based on history the discrepancies are likely to grow greater because of it.

    Obviously there could be a thousand explanations and interpretations. One I've been noticing, and maybe it's more acute out here in California, is the number of parents who are just checking out entirely from the public school system. Their kids aren't getting better education in private schools per se, they're just getting one that isn't encumbered by a wide socioeconomic range and the different levels of preparedness that brings.

    --Can be optionally paired with a couple of NYT op-eds, from Krugman and Kristof, on the new book "Coming Apart: The State of White America from 1960-2010," which argues that liberalism has destroyed the family unit and achievement levels.

    Krugman says it's bunk, that it's all based on non-college-educated people being able to get jobs:


    Kristof, in a colum titled The White Underclass, says there's some merit to citing the dissolution of the family structure, but "some evidence suggests that we need more social policy, not less."

  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Those studies are irrelevant because people change after high school.

    - 93Devil
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Terrific article in the Times today:


    I wish the last education thread hadn't been locked so I could post this in response to Dick's comment directed to me about class size:

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